• Flinch [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2 years ago

    Man leading country with the largest homeless population in the world says country which eliminated extreme poverty within its borders is about to collapse, of course this is true and should be taken seriously very-intelligent

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        Buddy, you realize you’re quoting a source from 2011? Over the past decade GDP/capita in China has more than doubled and the number of people living below the poverty line has dropped from 100 million to less than 1 million.

        Do people not check facts anymore? Jesus fucking Christ man. It’s like y’all never learned the basic scientific process.

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          Do people not check facts anymore?

          Likewise, do people not cite sources for their own claims?

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              Heard of the burden of proof? Lead by example and Google it first

              Besides, providing sources isn’t just to support your ideas, but for people to evaluate the quality of your info and gauge your integrity. 101 stuff, but go on lecturing about the scientific process while practicing none of it yourself.

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          Buddy, I’m talking homelessness specifically, not just poverty. Show me proof China’s reduced homelessness significatly. Because the most recent figure I could find was 2015… where there was an additional 500,000 homeless people from 2011, largely due to exploited migrant labor.

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        I love not accounting for population size! However, let’s see how the countries can be compared when we do:

        Uhhhh China has 4x the population of the US

        Uhhhh the US has more people in prison than China despite having 4x less people in the country

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          You can sort the chart to adjust for population:

          (last column is homeless/10k)

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          But 5 is bigger than 4

          Why bring up prison, is this a general “which country is worse” discussion?

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            A lot of homeless people do end up in prison both for all of the anti-homeless laws in various cities. For some folks it may end up being a better option than just outright dying in the streets from lack of food, medicine (love how the richest nation can’t put our tax money into anything that actually helps all of us), and/or from the elements. So while your point of bringing up prison population is a valid one. It is still (in part) related to homeless population numbers, just not totally useful by itself.

            That being said, I do think that China is actually putting much more effort into dealing with the problem. As bringing people out of poverty/homelessness is crucial to keeping support of the masses. When enough people are just tossed out and can’t get help. It will lead to dramatic and very widespread revolts and even civil wars. That is true for any nation, no matter what system is in place. Socialist nations were birthed by such widespread poverty for the many while the few hoarded the wealth and resources. It is kind of one of the main points Marx and other anti-capitalist theorists base their shit on.