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Summary
Lawmakers from both parties expressed outrage after The Atlantic’s editor-in-chief revealed he was accidentally included in a Trump administration Signal chat discussing Yemen airstrikes.
Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-Pa.) and Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-Calif.) called for investigations and firings, labeling it a serious security breach.
Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) criticized the use of non-secure systems, warning that adversaries like Russia and China could exploit it.
Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned the administration’s mishandling of classified information, saying it endangers national security.
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I agree that “heads should roll”…literally.
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Make it happen Senate. It’s literally your job. So fucking do it
But her emails!!!
🧈🚹
…that’s Lenny tho
Yes, and Squiggy.
I feel like David Lander was the more popular of the 2 back in the day, but I’ve seen Michael Mckean show up in more things after. I wonder if he found it hard to shake that character? … or if I didn’t watch the right stuff
They didn’t really care about her emails with that statement, it was her pronoun which was the problem they were crying about.
I’d say 50/50 because she’s a woman and a Democrat.
Good thing she never wore a tan suit or used the wrong mustard, then Republicans would have done something drastic like storm the Capitol building!
I mean, her politics are also pretty shit.
Just, the shit parts they likely agree with.
They actually love a War Hawk like Clinton, they just hate admitting it because, exactly, she’s a woman and a Democrat.
“Every accusation is a confession”
I always thought they just liked buttery males.
And just like that, everyone has stopped talking about hillary clintons emails.
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No heads will roll. What most stories miss is that the main reason they didn’t use official channels for this (and most likely many of their other conversations as well) is that they don’t want to comply with the Federal Records Act. They don’t want there to be a record of a lot of the shit they’re saying and doing and plan to do.
Trump and his regime’s cabinet are truly evil and rotten to their core.
This was literally in the instructional videos that Heritage made for new Trump staffers under Project2025. To do as little as possible that complies with the Federal Records Act. This is that video.
Yeah, I know why the guy came clean, but it would have been so much more useful if we stayed on the chat. Really a big missed opportunity.
OTOH he did stay on it as long as he could while still being able to protect himself by saying he didn’t think it could be real and most likely a scam or attempt to entrap, plus the thread was basically over by then anyway.
Yep. If he stayed on the chat too long he would have been arrested for espionage and imprisoned for life.
The trump regime’s gross incompetence put him in a dangerous position.
Meanwhile, I suspect that someone on the inside quietly looped the journalist into the group as a way to expose what’s been going on. If so, that person is in grave danger.
Mike Waltz invited him into the chat, so I find that unlikely.
I haven’t found anything so far saying who invited him in. Just passive voice that he was “inadvertently” included. So in your source that it was Waltz, did it say whether he personally did it or was it one of his staff? I’d be interested to know how it happened. Did someone misunderstand who “JG” meant? (apparently it was just his initials). If so, who with the initials JG did they think they were inviting. I’d appreciate any link with that info if you have it.
It was his top aide I believe. I don’t know I read it this morning having the same conversation with my little brother. This is the article, I would dig up the relevant part but I am about to head out the door.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/24/mike-waltz-signal-chat-resign-00246541
Hegseth is now saying it didn’t actually happen, matching their incompetence with dishonesty, the tone of this “merit based” administration
I’m shocked that the administration of “Put the big boxes of top secret docs under the bathroom chandelier” would mishandle secret war plans.
Remember in 2016 when the entire magat crowd screamed that Hillary should be locked up for using a private, secure server that was only accessible to authorized individuals?
Surely they won’t be hypocrites and try to brush this under the rug, or worse try to blame the editor-in-chief who had no desire to get wrapped up in this.
haha, yeah, let’s get them on this hypocrisy. surely this will be the last one, if we just point it down and take it to mom, everything will be set right. no real effort required.
thank you. people just need to stop it. we all get it. now what are we going to do about it?
no one is coming to save us.
guns.
see, pointing at guns in the american sense is kind of… not productive. the american conception is very capitalist, that the value of the gun comes from owning it, rather than using it.
The worst thing is aside from being inept and careless, there is no chance they aren’t selling secrets to anyone willing to pay.
It’s OK! He LEARNED his Lesson! Again!
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Devil’s Advocate Hot Take:
This is an expression of power. An intentional leak to show that “We get to break rules, and you cannot.” We see it as incompetence and abject hypocrisy, but it could be a purposeful leak because they don’t care about being seen as hypocrites, they are about showing us they can get away with it. It could also be a Trial Balloon about the kind of wars they intend to wage.
/takes off tinfoil hat
I really think they really are just this stupid, but I think its at least worthwhile to consider the alternative, because a lot of what conservatives do is about using hypocrisy as a weapon and expression of power over others. They want us getting angry about such things, so they can can be cool and collected and say that we’re overreacting because they’re so calm while chuckling and sneering at us.
“But her emails!” Yeah they don’t actually give a shit, they may just want to show they can get away with it. Much like Trump rejecting using a government issued cell phone in his first term and Bush “losing” millions of emails.
This is an expression of power. An intentional leak to show that “We get to break rules, and you cannot.”
Hanlon’s razor applies I think:
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence or stupidity”
I really think they really are just this stupid
Yep. They fired all the adults that think things through and provide rigor for a reason so the only people left are children doing whatever they want ignorant of the consequences.
Exactly. If they had wanted to intentionally leak classified information in order to move the overton window or something, they would have done it differently. They wouldn’t have had the VP disagreeing with Trump. They wouldn’t have actually leaked serious classified information, including the name of an active CIA officer. They wouldn’t have leaked it to the editor in chief of the Atlantic.
They fired all the adults that think things through and provide rigor for a reason so the only people left are children doing whatever they want ignorant of the consequences.
For example, they fired anyone who would otherwise have said “Folks, this is not an appropriate communications tool for classified information. This needs to be shared in a SCIF”.
Anybody who knows better also knows to keep their mouth shut if they want to keep their job in this admin. And even if keeping their job isn’t their priority, they know that if they speak up they risk being scapegoated, hung out to dry, and possibly killed by MAGA loyalists for daring to confront the king.
No I’d say there’s absolutely a good share of malice in the mix with incompetence and stupidity.
There is exactly one political party that cares about hypocrisy.
And it ain’t the Republicans.
As long as we’re putting on our tinfoil hats, it’s also possible that this was an intentional action taken against The Atlantic (or against Jeffrey Goldberg in particular). Trump’s admin has plenty of reasons to want to silence that publication, and might’ve hoped that by “accidentally” giving Goldberg access, they could entrap him into committing a crime (mishandling of classified material, espionage, etc).
With a little cooperation from the AG’s office, presto! You’ve got one of your biggest critics in jail, and sent a message to other would-be whistleblowers.
Reminds me of this from the Bush II years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy
The Killian documents controversy (also referred to as Memogate or Rathergate) involved six documents containing false allegations about President George W. Bush’s service in the Texas Air National Guard in 1972–73, allegedly typed in 1973. Dan Rather presented four of these documents as authentic in a 60 Minutes II broadcast aired by CBS on September 8, 2004, less than two months before the 2004 presidential election, but it was later found that CBS had failed to authenticate them. Several typewriter and typography experts soon concluded that they were forgeries. Lieutenant Colonel Bill Burkett provided the documents to CBS, but he claims to have burned the originals after faxing them copies.
Anyway, interesting and worthwhile thing to consider.
It’s the Russian way. Everyone knows things are shitty but everyone also feels powerless about it. Learned helplessness as a political strategy and the basis for a society.
The first part is purely conjecture of their intent. It is irrelevant and unknowable. The facts are they leaked this to a reporter. They should be held accountable based on the facts, not their intent.
Pretty good take. I agree they actually are this dumb, but not everyone involved is necessarily, so it’s wise to be aware of alternatives such as what you suggest.
Being dumb is the meta rn
The only person in real danger here is the journalist.
And the yemenis but they’ve got the wrong skin tone for anybody to even mention. Genocide is completely normalized.
Living in the imperial core where a chat error is far bigger scandal than a genocide.
well said. I’m surprised at the reaction towards this specific event.
the administration is purging the federal government, rerouting tens of thousands of federal agents to enforce immigration (literally 80% of ATF is now focused on immigration. DEA, FBI, IRS, and more are all being recruited to help with immigration), illegally ignoring court orders, using a Stasi-like group of unmarked federal agents to intimidate with threats of criminal prosecution and force people into compliance (look at what happened at the SS office or the non-profit U.S. Institute of Peace), giving executive orders that are blatantly and explicitly unconstitutional (like the one to end birthright citizenship)
that isn’t even starting to mention the genocide happening in Palestine that is not only being condoned but openly embraced. we are arresting and attempting to deport individuals whose only crime is that they are anti-Israel. permanent residents are being denied entry into the country because they have a photo of a Hezbollah leader on their phone
the administration is using coercion and threats to force over 60 universities (Colombia being the most visible) to change the things they are teach, abandon certain policies, suppress student speech, and dramatically increase police presence. all in the name of fighting “anti-semitism”
it has only been a couple of months and right now Congress is making a stink about a text message
How dare you let the proles know we’re bombing people for no good reason?
Killing people in the middle east has been a source of income for us since the 1950s, a chat room error can only happen since the 90s, it’s the new interesting thing for the media to gawk at as people are being killed.
Democrats…“Why I oughta…If I only…boy oh boy are you ever…sigh”.
I think the important thing here is to not get distracted and focus on what’s really important:
Hillary’s emails.
Buttery
Buttery males?!
