TL;DR To make messaging on Reddit faster and more reliable, we’re replacing Private Messages (PMs) with Reddit Chat and inbox notifications. This transition is necessary to maintain and improve Reddit’s messaging infrastructure. We aim to make these changes with minimal disruption while improving the user experience.

Timeline: Starting at the end of March, we’ll roll out these changes in phases over the next three months to ensure everything goes smoothly

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    enshittification, its how youtube went, they removed DM/PM and encourage community chats, and video comments, because they cant mine or sell data easily on PMs.

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      Its hard not to, that place has a fucking monopoly in internet communities!

      Maybe it was at oeast partially a blessing I got banned…

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        Post links to Lemmy to counter it.

        Stop lurking here and post links into communities. Be the change you want to see! If you build it, more will come!

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          Also, and probably most important, you don’t need 10 million people in a community to have quality content.

          Having so many also means having a huge amount of toxic people.

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        I wouldn’t say a monopoly, but my counterpoint is pointing to how discord swallowed up all the BBS forums that reddit hadn’t. So it’s not like that’s much better.

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          My latest horror (slight exaggeration) was finding pretty much the entire modding scene for Balatro is contained to discord

          wtf? If I wanna download mods for a game I have to prowl through a discord “forum”? It’s awful, what’s wrong with nexus or steam workshop

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            Small world, I’m also on the balatro/other games modding discord boat, and it is a rough ocean out here. The perennial argument is that users don’t know how to use an old school forum, nobody wants to moderate it, nobody wants to pay for the infrastructure.

            All those fall flat to me. Nobody even bothers to use discord’s “forums” or pinned messages for their bug reports/troubleshooting, no they just post straight to general, “this doesnt work can someone help” with no details whatsoever. Not like it would be any better or worse on a forum. It’s also not like BBS forums don’t have moderation tools, it’s not some lost art from an ancient civilization. As for paying for it… the whole discord server is propped up by nitro users. Like come on. Money can be exchanged for goods and services.

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        It really doesn’t if you’re willing to look past the first five (paid for) results on Google…

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      Some communities I’m interested in aren’t on the fediverse, or I get more out of following it on both sites, or I like their custom CSS faaaaaar more than the Mbin design.

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    Fuuuuck chat. I hated it when they debuted it, I hate it now. Fortunately I don’t have to deal with that shit cause I’m over here now.

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      its because they cant datamine pm/dm, a chat is basically fair game to them.

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      im surprised they keep the legacy frontend around for this long. im sure its a matter of time before they kill it.

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        they probably know the legacy users/og users like us would bounce from reddit the moment they remove it? they havnt figure a way to introduce the shittier new UI in such a way that people will stay?

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      They are changing this as part of getting rid of PMs:

      • Old Reddit will receive small UI updates to allow users to access all information previously provided via PMs
      • New button to access the notifications inbox, which will badge if notifications are received
      • Chat button will badge if new chats are received
      • The PM UI on Old Reddit will be discontinued within the same timeframe from other platforms once the migration has been completed.
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    Why & When Is This Happening?

    To make Reddit faster, simpler, and easier to use, we needed to unify our messaging platforms. This consolidation helps us focus on improving one system instead of maintaining multiple. Plus, Reddit Chat’s infrastructure is built for the future, unlike the PM system which is about as old as Reddit itself.

    We’re sharing this change early because we want your feedback! We’ve spent months talking to mods, developers, and users to ensure this migration works for everyone (shoutout to u/RemindMeBot fans). But there might be scenarios we’ve missed, and we need your input to address them. You can share feedback directly with the team working on this project in the comments below.

    My sides went into orbit. They aren’t even trying to come up with believable lies any more, right?

    • If the concern was to make Reddit “faster, simpler, and easier to use”, they’d ditch chat and keep DMs
    • “muh futchure” fallacy (appeal to novelty)
    • pretending that they want/care for user feedback

    …I think that the reason is twofold: 1) it’s easier to plug advertisement into the new chat system, and 2) chat only works in new.reddit so they can use it as an excuse to deprecate yet another old.reddit system.

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      pratically what youtube did, got rid of thier DM/pm and forced everyone to comment on videos, so it can be astroturfed and artificially boosts engagement.

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        Yup, pretty much.

        And, as usual, advertisers are to be blamed: they’re the ones interested on “engagement”, and indirectly siccing platforms to artificially inflate their engagement numbers.

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      They aren’t even trying to come up with believable lies any more, right?

      Yeah I’m wondering that too.

      I looked at the thread on Reddit and I can’t find one single user who says this is a good idea.

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    Oh yeah, chat is such a popular feature. I love how it is constantly full of spam and death threats. Lets elevate that great content to my lock screen.

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    I jist got my 5th account perma banned. Moved to lemmy after my last 7 day ban, never looking back now. They are starting to ban just for swearing.

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    Never use chat. Anytime I get a chat message, it’s spam or somebody trying to scam me.

    Private messages, by the way. Never had that issue.

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    Sync for Reddit does not have a chat function, so I won’t be using DMs… Not that I even care for it, I guess my “chat request” feed will be bigger for the next time I check on the desktop website (with Ublock Origin ofc) 😅