#archlinux gets $600K in funding (from the usual German foundation, of course), #Firefox drops Do Not Track and #Flathub is being separated from the #GNOME foundation into its own entity: time for the #linux and #OpenSource News video!

https://youtu.be/NVdq8JNtk5E

  • Alejandro_P@mathstodon.xyz
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    3 months ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social always love the news!

    although sometimes you get a bit circular in your ramblings

    anyways keep up the good work 👍

  • Daniel Casanueva@mastodon.social
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    3 months ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social I’m thankful you share links to your videos here. YouTube doesn’t recommend them to me, even though I often watch them and I’m subscribed…

  • Claire@mastodon.social
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    2 months ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social I thought your rant about GNOME favoritism in icon guidelines was weird. Your complaint about icons was especially strange given that skeuomorphism is GNOME’s entire look; KDE actually tends to have a more symbolic style. But they both agree on clarity and minimalism without looking bland or flat.

    The guidelines also use good/bad examples from both ecosystems.

    I do agree with the broad point that they should be separate but there’s no evidence of discrimination IMO.

        • Nick @ The Linux Experiment@mastodon.socialOP
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          2 months ago

          @clairie I didn’t “rant” about it…

          Look it up, it’s well documented. Basically, flathub guidelines meant that something like Okular and many other apps from KDE (and other desktops) could never be featured, because their icons are too “realistic”.
          Gnome icons aren’t skeuomorphic at all, they’re flat, simple colored, and don’t look real at all, compared to breeze app icons.

          As an example, even people working on Flathub remarked that thyis was an issue: https://discourse.flathub.org/t/app-developer-feedback-about-quality-guidelines/8037

          • Claire@mastodon.social
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            2 months ago

            @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social I think Okular was unfairly judged and they agreed in that post, but I’d contend that it doesn’t fit Breeze’s current icon guides, which I’d speculate is why it was “not contemporary”.

            If you want to say Flathub is biased against old apps, I’d agree but that punishes in all directions, including apps like GIMP.

            But that’s all just to be featured in the banner. If you want to stubbornly keep an old style, that’s fine; but you’re not owed the spotlight over newer apps.

            • Nick @ The Linux Experiment@mastodon.socialOP
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              2 months ago

              @clairie@mastodon.social Oh yeah, and I was just reporting on the fact that multiple developers complained about this. I don’t have strong feelings on the issue personally, it’s just a banner.

              I just think it’s weird to enforce icons styles in the App Store for « Linux ». Not up to them to say what’s good or not :)

              • Claire@mastodon.social
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                2 months ago

                @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social You’re right it is just the banner, and that’s why I didn’t agree the guides were actively discriminatory. Platforms want to make good first impression, and it’s not unusual to have higher standards for showcases than to get the app on the store to begin with.

                One thing I want is more avenues to reward good apps that may not fit the guidelines perfectly. Like visibility rounds or a users’ choice spot.

                I hope that makes sense. I’m sorry for being rude in my initial post.

                • Nick @ The Linux Experiment@mastodon.socialOP
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                  2 months ago

                  @clairie@mastodon.social No worries ! I don’t even think they were actively discriminatory either, it’s just a result of « Gnome devs wrote guidelines » resulting in inherently biased stuff.
                  Nothing harmful, and they even asked devs for feedback, so it’s all good !

            • Claire@mastodon.social
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              2 months ago

              @thelinuxEXP I think generally the issue for KDE apps is that they’re being migrated to Flathub after they’ve been well-established whereas GNOME apps tend to be built with Flathub guidelines specifically in mind.

              I’m all for making that migration easier and encouraging more KDE apps. But I think that Flathub is appealing in large part because of its uniformity. And I think featured apps should be held to a high standard for presentation because that’s the highest endorsement Flathub can give.