the DNC is solely responsible for the rise of neoliberalism
Neoliberalism is commonly associated with conservatism and the economic policies of America’s right, not the left. Although presidents like Clinton were fairly big on neoliberal economics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
The term “neoliberalism” can be kind of confusing because it contains “liberal” in it. Socially liberal and economically liberal are pretty different things.
You said the DNC “solely” pushed neoliberalism. I’m saying that most of the pushing has been from the GOP. The 90’s DNC was pretty into it (looking at NAFTA), but over the past 40 years, most of the push for small government and deregulation has come from the GOP, not the DNC.
I don’t think saying that is particularly controversial. Every single republican candidate is proud of that.
Who started gutting unions before Regan using the Thaft-Hartley act? Yeah that’s right, Carter. This isn’t new. Taxes cuts for the rich in the DNC date back from the Kennedy era.
You should stand by your statement as it is correct.
Neoliberalism is fairly close to the general economic consensus on things like trade between 1980-the present. It was backed by both parties for a reason.
Oh, I have actually studied economics. Im not “almost there” Im past the point where I consider anyone talking about “neoliberalism” to be relatively uneducated in economics.
Manchin isn’t a great example of where the party has opportunities to move left. Manchin js about as far left as you’re ever going to get out of West Virginia, a state where Trump won 68% of the vote.
A more liberal candidate in WV would almost certainly lose and someone more waaay more conservative would win.
Reagan and Thatcher were both neoliberals, and notably not from Labour or the Democratic party. I’m not claiming the Democrats didn’t embrace neoliberalism in the Clinton years. The Republicans pushed it, and the Democrats went along with it.
There are still Republicans who push more neoliberal policies, and they disagree with the populist wing of the party. Trump and his ilk were a departure from some neoliberal policies, but not in a good way.
I get what you’re trying to do by saying all parties are bad because they’re capitalist, and that’s a reasonable point of view. However, it’s no good to just say something that isn’t true. Republicans and Tories were always more neoliberal than the Democrats or Labour, and they were the ones that pushed it.
I mean… the DNC is solely responsible for the rise of neoliberalism, so…
How many RINOs out there can you count on to block GOP bullshit the way Sinema and Manchin cockblock the D caucus?
DNC tolerates way too much conservatism. They only do it, though, in order to turn spots on the map blue. It’s about winning, not about policy.
Neoliberalism is commonly associated with conservatism and the economic policies of America’s right, not the left. Although presidents like Clinton were fairly big on neoliberal economics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
The term “neoliberalism” can be kind of confusing because it contains “liberal” in it. Socially liberal and economically liberal are pretty different things.
Keep going, you’re almost there!
okay… so… remind me what party Clinton was?
Remind me what party still props up Clintonians? As recently as 2016?
Remind me what party steadfastly pushes neoliberals and ostrazices progressives?
Yeah, I stand by my statement 💯
You said the DNC “solely” pushed neoliberalism. I’m saying that most of the pushing has been from the GOP. The 90’s DNC was pretty into it (looking at NAFTA), but over the past 40 years, most of the push for small government and deregulation has come from the GOP, not the DNC.
I don’t think saying that is particularly controversial. Every single republican candidate is proud of that.
Who started gutting unions before Regan using the Thaft-Hartley act? Yeah that’s right, Carter. This isn’t new. Taxes cuts for the rich in the DNC date back from the Kennedy era.
Damn Liberals!
Yup. I never said it was all or nothing. Just saying that neoliberalism is pushed much more by America’s right.
And I would argue that, now that the parties have polarized, the DNC is less neoliberal than in the past, and the GOP is hyper neoliberal these days.
You should stand by your statement as it is correct.
Neoliberalism is fairly close to the general economic consensus on things like trade between 1980-the present. It was backed by both parties for a reason.
You’re almost there!
Oh, I have actually studied economics. Im not “almost there” Im past the point where I consider anyone talking about “neoliberalism” to be relatively uneducated in economics.
Neoliberalism is also closely associated with what the general economic consensus on most things.
Manchin isn’t a great example of where the party has opportunities to move left. Manchin js about as far left as you’re ever going to get out of West Virginia, a state where Trump won 68% of the vote.
A more liberal candidate in WV would almost certainly lose and someone more waaay more conservative would win.
I have no idea what you think solely means.
You’re right, I forgot about UK Labour.
You’re telling me Republicans are out here pushing neoliberalism? Or are we talking more Libertarians?
A good exercise here is to think of a prominent neoliberal, and then think of what party they’re in.
Reagan and Thatcher were both neoliberals, and notably not from Labour or the Democratic party. I’m not claiming the Democrats didn’t embrace neoliberalism in the Clinton years. The Republicans pushed it, and the Democrats went along with it.
There are still Republicans who push more neoliberal policies, and they disagree with the populist wing of the party. Trump and his ilk were a departure from some neoliberal policies, but not in a good way.
I get what you’re trying to do by saying all parties are bad because they’re capitalist, and that’s a reasonable point of view. However, it’s no good to just say something that isn’t true. Republicans and Tories were always more neoliberal than the Democrats or Labour, and they were the ones that pushed it.