• Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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    I would always start all conversations with my friends with “Hey Windows peasants!” If I had any friends. These two things have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

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    Windows 11 has changed this, many many people now warn other people about not using Windows 11 because it is such shit. Doesn’t matter what you run, just don’t run Windows 11.

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        Obsoleting a lot of relatively recent fast hardware means people are either faced with a fuck off or complicated work arounds. Then there is forcing people to log in with their MS email account which they may not have or want or again forcing people into complicated work arounds. The implicit privacy issues of recall if it was rolled out as planned.

        Ads in the windows UI both exiting and planned. The fact that they have discussed the idea of making Windows a monthly/annual fee.

        Then the carry overs from 10 The fact that the start menu search is less useful than any linux DE or windows XP Re-enabling crap that people disabled on purpose Certain kinds of links opening in Edge even if people use chrome

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          Wait i have w11 in my laptop… i dont have a windows account sign in. Is that a forthcoming change?

          Ads are fucked, thats fucked.

          But it mainly seems like microsoft policy, not necessarily w11 itself is the issue?

          I ignorantly think a monthly subscription would never happen and we’d see mass linux adoption.

          I have a dual boot in my near term plans for my desktop. I would pull that trigger immediately if ads or subscriptions materialized.

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      Linux user complaining about having to add repositories manually in order to get a piece of software to update or to add a tool they need.

      Me as an any operating system user. Both have draw backs that aren’t for normal people.

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        I use EndeavorOS which draws from Arch repositories including AUR. I’ve never once had to manually add a repository.

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        Adding repos is a one time thing that takes like 10 minutes tbf. And even then there are gui tools for that funny enough.

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    I met a vegan who uses vim and arch linux. I’m that guy. I use vim and arch linux, and I’m a vegan.

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    Now that I think about it, that original meme was not true either. My friends always argued about windows vs. Mac, and continued to Android vs. iPhone

    Like, people talk about OSes in general conversation

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      i used to use arch but it kept deteriorating over time and it was fun to fix but now im in year 10 with board exams next year lol(i dont have time for that)

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    I’ve been bombarded with Shit about Linux ever since I signed up here.

    CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE CRAZE BEHIND THIS DAMN OPERATING SYSTEM?!!! I just dont fukin get it! Whats so special about it😭😭

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      There are political, practical and aesthetic reasons to choose GNU/Linux as an operating system.

      Political Reasons

      The Linux kernel, various components from GNU, a large part of the software library etc. are released under Copyleft licenses such as the GNU Public License (GPL), which cannot be revoked. This prevents a lot of evil shit the corporate world likes to do with software. It also menas it can’t be taken away; My license to copy, examine, modify and redistribute the Linux source code is irrevocable.

      The kernel and much of what goes into a Linux OS these days are largely developed by larger corporations (Red Hat is now owned by IBM) but a lot of the app ecosystem is community driven. A lot of applications in the Linux ecosystem exist because someone wanted the tool to exist, not because someone begrudgingly accomplished something to increase shareholder value.

      Practical Reasons

      The vast majority of Linux distros are provided free of charge.

      The majority of Linux distros are lighter on system resources than Windows; Windows’ system requirements have forced a lot of perfectly functional hardware into retirement where they run just fine with Linux.

      With a few notable exceptions the Linux ecosystem is free of the ads and spyware built into Windows these days.

      Microsoft has a habit of rearranging their UI kind of for the hell of it, meaning constant retraining for users. In the Linux ecosystem, only Gnome is in the habit of making drastic unasked for design changes, and it’s very much not a user’s only choice.

      Microsoft has a lot of monetary incentives to be user hostile. Not a lot of people use the Microsoft Store to search for software because much of the software the userbase wants competes with a Microsoft product, so they aren’t found in the store. For example, Edge is the only web browser found in the Microsoft Store. Microsoft will not distribute a product that competes with one of their own. A typical package manager on Linux is full of actual useful software and is the preferred way of managing software on Linux. In fact, Windows is basically the only platform that hasn’t managed to make a package manager or app store the default way of handling software.

      Microsoft has been eroding the end user’s ability to control or even own their devices. Linux does not become unusable for several minutes due to updates the way Windows does. Linux doesn’t routinely take away features the way Windows has been doing lately.

      Aesthetic Reasons

      Windows is becoming less customizable as time goes on. Linux is only getting more impressive. It’s not difficult to make the experience YOU want on Linux. Windows doesn’t let you put the Taskbar on the side of the screen anymore. Get a load of this, I’m using Fedora KDE right now. By default there’s a thing that works very much like the Start button on Windows; icon in the lower-left corner that pops up a menu from which to launch applications. I can right click that, click “Show Alternatives” and I can have a full screen thing similar to the MacOS launcher, a smaller cascading menu type thing that works like the Windows 85 Start menu, or by default a two-pane thing that’s more typical of Linux systems. It’s just so much more flexible.

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      1. Windows is a privacy nightmare. The OS is constantly sending data to Microsoft while being used.

      2. Windows hogs resources. If you don’t shovel money out for new hardware every few years, your computer will run like shit.

      3. Windows is full of ads.

      4. The majority of malware is written for Windows. Not really a selling point for me, but it’s a bonus.

      5. Linux is free.

      6. Linux doesn’t force updates. You update when you want to, and it takes less than a minute to do.

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        Oooh… okey, noice noice…

        How similar is the interface to windows?? Im mostly interested in how customizable it is. if theres more customization features (I lake to change the colors n fonts of stuff and all my themes are an eyesore on purpose uwu) then im sold.

        Also the amount of fucking data lost on games/programa cus of forced updates…

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            ok it looks cool but all that code looks hella fuckin scary(・◠・;)

            Do I gotta learn to code ALL THAT??? Do I even need to learn whatever tf that code stuff is to even change the settings/wallpaper??! Oh god now I know how Apple users feel when I ramble off about Android lets me Sideload apps that aren’t in the app store…

            Im hoping to god I dont even have to touch whatever all that block of text is just to personalize my system

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              Yeah don’t worry, you’ll mostly be copying and pasting stuff from the Internet. Not much mental exercise, just follow instructions.

              The Arch Wiki is an amazing resource, It contains tons of useful info that isn’t specific to only ArchLinux.

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      Think about why you joined Lemmy. Reddit has been getting greedier and greedier, so you left to a place where the grass is greener. The same thing is true with Windows and Linux (and Linux is also much more big and mature than Lemmy). It attracts the same kind of people.

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      Lemmy generally attracts the same kind of person that would also use Linux. Both of them are open source and community driven alternatives to software otherwise provided by large corporations and milked for every last cent. Both of them require just a bit more knowledge in order to comfortably use them. Linux with all the distro’s and desktop environments, Lemmy with all the instances and apps/front-ends. We’re very much a bubble here.

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        So-

        Code Monkeys.

        I call all the high tech people code monkeys cus its funny~

        Also I say this like I’m not tech savy… Im just not THAT tech savy, but Im more savy than average people.

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      I’ll tell you why I use it: to use open source software. I noticed whatever freemium program I used on Windows that was cool eventually got enshittified and became spyware. Like fucking clockwork, the author of uTorrent sold out and all the new versions became cancer

      Linux has better support for a lot of open source software, you can use a package manager to download most of it, and flatpak for a bunch that’s not there

      It’s just so much easier than trying to find the official site for the program you want.

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      Everything is free and 100% customizable if you want to put a little bit of effort in (I’m sure this varies wildly depending on technical abilities).

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    I get these prompts on my work laptop and always go for 1. Nobody who uses your os just for work, want to get bombarded with these kind of requests

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    After the latest bullshit from Microsoft I would make absolutely sure to recommend literally anything but Windows to everyone that talks to me.