• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    You can use a username only for finding and adding friends, you only need the phone number to create an account. That’s probably because Signal started as an alternative to Messages (or whatever it was called back then), so you could send SMS if you wanted, or secure messages to friends w/ Signal. The whole point was to be a gentle transition from SMS to private messaging. However, they eventually dropped the SMS feature, but it seems they kept the phone number as username thing.

    It kind of sucks, but I think that’s a reasonable limitation since the vast majority of people using this service will have a phone number. You could probably even sign up for a free trial of something (e.g. Google Fi) to sign up for Signal, set up the username, and then drop the phone number service. I don’t know if there are any problems with this, but I don’t think they do anything with your phone number after everything is set up.

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      7 months ago

      I think another reason they use a phone number is that it can mitigate issues with people or bots creating hundred of accounts maybe

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      7 months ago

      Yeah. And I don’t fault them for this route. I just with I could sign up without a phone number. Maybe the username thing is a predecessor to allowing usernam-only registration in the future.

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        7 months ago

        Yeah, hopefully. It would also be awesome to have a web login so I could access messages and whatnot when using someone else’s computer w/o having to install something.

        I don’t know what direction they’re going, but I’m honestly okay with the caveats that currently exist.

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      7 months ago

      Google is a very bad choice because it requires a phone number on its own. Also heard that there may be additional KYC.

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        7 months ago

        Are you suggesting you need a phone number to get a phone number from Google Fi?

        And yeah, it’ll definitely to KYC, because that’s a federal regulation. My point is that you don’t need the number long-term, so the number will only be associated with you for like a week while the trial period lasts. So sign up for Google Fi trial, create a Signal account, then cancel the trial. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

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          7 months ago

          Yea. Don’t you need a Google account first to use such a service? Those do need phone numbers to register.

          And also KYC is unacceptable in this case, imo. If the number is needed only for a short time, there are similar, non-KYC options like what you would find on kycnot.me.

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            7 months ago

            Yeah, I think you’ll create a Google account as part of the Google Fi account creation process.

            If that really bothers you, use a different MVNO. Some offer free trials, but even if not, it’s not too bad to buy a month of service. My provider is Tello, and the minimum service that’ll give you SMS is $5/month. If you’re clever, you can probably also find a VOIP provider that does SMS for really cheap.

            My point isn’t that Google Fi specifically is what you should use, just that it’s an example of a service that offers a free trial, so you can sign up for Signal for free.