This woman has no soul
Same lady who rolls up her windows when traveling through the “bad part of town”
The Moderate Republican, folks.
Typical republican filth.
Nikki is no moderate.
Moderate by GOP standards. Moderately less of a nazi or something like that
She’s not even that. She went full Nazi when she called for the culling of the American people. Gas chambers and concentration camps.
She’s always been a ghoul
Not surprised.
Indians love Israeli creampies. And Indians generally hate Islam.
Hindu nationalists often hate Islam. Haley is American-born to a Sikh family.
Why WHY would Joe Biden sign off on providing Nikki Haley with PERMANENT MARKERS!
How can they say they love Israel but also say Jews run everything and be generally negative towards Jews here?
“Doublethink is a process of indoctrination in which subjects are expected to simultaneously accept two conflicting beliefs as truth, often at odds with their own memory or sense of reality. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy.”
Edited to add:
It’s a common tactic with fascist regimes. Nazis used to do it with Jewish propaganda by simultaneously claiming that Jews were weak vermin that needed to be exterminated and that they are this supervillain that controls all the money.
You currently see it a lot with the people chanting “Genocide Joe” and claiming he is some mastermind warhawk with at the same time claiming that he is some feeble, senile old man. He’s Schrödinger’s politician!
Hey Nikki, why don’t you use your birth name - Nimarata Nikki Randhawa?🤔
That isn’t, in my opinion, something to criticize her for.
If we are going to respect people’s names and pronouns, that needs to apply to Republicans too, even if you suspect they changed their name for political reasons.
Caitlyn Jenner is an absolute piece of shit who killed someone, but I’m not going to call her Bruce because of it.
Should we not hold republicans to their own standards? Taking the high road doesn’t always work.
We should hold ourselves to our own standards.
Well my standards don’t allow me to let hypocrites eat their cake and have it too. She wants to be in a party of racists then I’m going to mention her attempt to hide her race.
Then shouldn’t you call Caitlyn Jenner ‘Bruce?’ She’s in the party of anti-trans bigots after all.
It’s ok, I can still mention her being an absolutely remorseless cunt.
And let rest of the GOP ostracize her cause no amount of cumgurgling is going to make her ‘one of them’.
Sauce for the goose, my friend. Going high while our opponents go low is why this nation is in the state it is right now. If they chose to wrestle in the muck rather than abide by civilized rules, then I’m more than content to get dirty and fight them there if that serves me best. I see no reason to cede them any advantage out of an outmoded sense of fair play.
As I said to someone else, then shouldn’t you call Caitlyn Jenner ‘Bruce’ for the same reason?
Is Caitlyn Jenner refusing to respect other people’s pronouns/names or used the issue as a political weapon? As far as I know, her only position is that people should relax about cases of accidentally misgendering people.
Nikki Haley, on the other hand, has made numerous public statements attacking the use of people’s chosen pronouns. So yes, I feel fine attacking her on the issue because she has chosen it as a weapon against others.
Someone should finish her.
Why would you think it’s a good political move to sign a bomb in such a controversial conflict. It boggles my mind who suggested that as a good idea.
The conflict is only controversial to one party.
Unlike Hollywood movies, things aren’t always black and white. It is quite possible that both sides are. Neither the Hamas nor Nethanyahu government are the good guys. Both sides try to exterminate the other side. Both sides also don’t mind killing innocent people in their way.
It is a fucked up situation, and with recent developments it looks like it is turning into Israel’s Afghanistan. Biden was right warning Nethanyahu to not make the same mistake at US did after 9/11.
I responded to a comment asking why a national politician would choose a side in a conflict. My response was that her political party has picked a side to support by a wide majority.
Republicans support Israel in this conflict almost universally. Haley’s support of Israel isn’t controversial in her own party.
This wasn’t a statement on the morality of the conflict, but of the political support of the belligerents. Republicans support Israel.
These are the people that are going to be ruling America soon.
That’ll happen when you give Democrats the presidency and a majority in Congress and all they do with it is issue blank checks for war instead of addressing the needs of the poor and working class.
It’s a replay of 2016, when Hillary (and Obama before her) ignored the Rust Belt and it lost her the presidency.
Failed Republican presidential nominees writing on artillery shells is the result of Democrats in the White House and Congress? Interesting.
No.
The bombs are the result of Democrats in the White House and Congress, seeing as how they’re the ones in power and they support arming a genocidal apartheid. What people write on them isn’t of any real consequence to me. I’m angry about the fact that we’re still sending them weapons.
Oh? and what are republicans doing for the poor and working class?
If your reflexive response is: “But they suck too!” you should realize it’s not the fantastic defense you think it is.
Lol. This is the party they want to replace ‘genocide joe’ with. Well done, kids!
Yes but see, if we just sit on our hands and don’t vote we won’t have any responsibility for what follows! Only voting for someone who is less than ideal on this issue is a morally bad choice!
I totally understand the point most of them are trying to make and agree with the sentiment, but they’re fucking morons. 100% absolute jibbering idiots.
This is an ugly binary choice here because the United States electoral system is a steaming pile of horse shit. Do what I, your friendly neighborhood lefty, am doing and swallow your pride and vote for center right Joe Biden because he’s leagues better than the dementia-addled, fascist Cheeto Benito. Then take all the disgust you’ve built up by voting for and living with another neoliberal corporate shill presidency and work your ass off to make sure we don’t have to keep voting between Dumb and Dumber every fucking election.
Do it because we’ll only be gently tiptoeing to the right under a Biden presidency, so it’s less likely you’ll end up in jail for discussing the “wrong” political ideology while that orange shitstained merkin would have me in jail just for writing this were it up to him. Don’t make it up to him.
Every time I encounter the “don’t vote” brigade, my first thought is that it’s a Russian or Chinese troll trying to get Trump elected again.
My second thought, which is a bit more nuanced, is some introspection on what Biden is actually doing. He has three options with regards to Israel, none of them good.
- He could deny them weapons, which would inevitably lead to outright war with Iran and an increase in Russian influence in the region, as well as a loss of an ally.
- He could fully commit to Netanyahu’s madness (i.e., what Trump wants to do), fully empowering genocide while using no political leverage on Israel. This would also ultimately lead to broad regional warfare, which will also likely increase Russian influence in the region.
- He could try to limit the damage by imposing conditions on weapons sales and attempt to thread the needle, recognizing Hamas for the grotesque terrorist organization it is while using political pressure to prevent as much needless death of civilians as possible. This is what Biden is trying to do.
I don’t know that Biden is doing a very good job with #3, but #1 would be a catastrophe, and #2 is what Trump wants.
This is a shitty situation in every conceivable way. Our ally, Israel, is currently being run by a corrupt and genocidal freak. There are no good answers to a situation like that beyond Israel coming to its senses and throwing Netanyahu in prison. But there are plenty of really bad answers, and Trump would be the worst.
I just want to say that there’s probably a large contingent of kids who are happy doing nothing because they’re not happy with the choices, while the conservatives proceed and reelect that orange turd back into office. If you’re American, vote like your libertt depends on it, because it likely does.
He could deny them weapons, which would inevitably lead to outright war with Iran and an increase in Russian influence in the region
Why?
He could fully commit to Netanyahu’s madness (i.e., what Trump wants to do), fully empowering genocide while using no political leverage on Israel.
Biden is doing this - he is threatening the ICC and ICJ
He could try to limit the damage by imposing conditions on weapons sales and attempt to thread the needle, recognizing Hamas for the grotesque terrorist organization it is while using political pressure to prevent as much needless death of civilians as possible. This is what Biden is trying to do.
Biden is not doing this. We have not stopped weapon shipments and have clearly been unable (more like unwilling) to stop or prevent Israel’s genocide
Also, Israel is not our ally. Their geopolitical interests align with Putin. Which is why they are trying to get Trump elected so that they can destroy the remnants of the “rules based international order” and begin in earnest their conquest of Greater Israel
Why?
Because Iran is a Russian ally and Russian proxy.
Biden is doing this - he is threatening the ICC and ICJ
No, he isn’t. Where in the world are you getting the idea that he’s literally “threatening” either?
Biden is not doing this. We have not stopped weapon shipments and have clearly been unable (more like unwilling) to stop or prevent Israel’s genocide
Dude, we temporarily halted shipments earlier this month to put pressure on Netanyahu. Were you sleeping?
Also, Israel is not our ally. Their geopolitical interests align with Putin. Which is why they are trying to get Trump elected so that they can destroy the remnants of the “rules based international order” and begin in earnest their conquest of Greater Israel
Netanyahu’s interests may align with Putin, but only insofar as both seem hell-bent on destabilizing the region. Putin would gladly let Iran stroll right into Israel and slaughter everyone in it. Israel’s own actual interests do not remotely align with Putin’s.
Because Iran is a Russian ally and Russian proxy.
Yes, but why does that mean stopping US weapons shipments to Israel would cause Iran to invade/attack/etc? Israel has a huge weapons stockpile and is still a Western ally - they just happen to be committing genocide with American funds and bombs.
Where in the world are you getting the idea that he’s literally “threatening” either?
https://www.ft.com/content/6700a246-e0cd-49d8-b5ef-d2379e86290f
“The administration of President Joe Biden will work with Congress on possible sanctions against the International Criminal Court after its prosecutor announced it was seeking arrest warrants for senior Israeli and Hamas officials, US secretary of state Antony Blinken said on Tuesday.”
we temporarily halted shipments earlier this month to put pressure on Netanyahu
We resumed those shipments and funds, and Israel has since crossed Biden’s red line and attacked Rafah
Netanyahu’s interests may align with Putin
Netanyahu/Likud are dictators who control Israel. Until he/they are removed, their interests are Israel’s interests. Which means that Israel is a Russian asset with a stranglehold on American funds thanks to AIPAC
I’d just like to remind you folks the headline you’re debating under:
Nikki Haley writes ‘finish them’ on IDF artillery shells during Israel visit
I’m gonna vote for Biden if I have to rise from the dead and crawl through broken glass to do so, and I hope everyone reading this thread does.
I’m not willing to pretend he’s not facilitating an ongoing genocide though.
Who makes you pretend that? You guys all want a medal for preaching to the choir?
The Democratic party expects their members to pretend that what’s happening in Gaza is not a genocide. They censured Rep Tlaib for saying so in Congress.
Reported as election interference
So what you’re saying is that you’re a-okay with fascism and genocide, provided it wears a blue jersey?
I don’t think anyone is saying that. You’re just arguing in bad faith.
I see a whole lot of excuses flying form Democrats to try and distract from the fact that they’re voting for Genocide Joe in November.
This thread is littered with them.
No, it isn’t.
We want to replace Genocide Joe with the Greens.
Unfortunately most American voters lack a conscience, so it’s not going to happen.
Lmao, comment more.
You’re definitely not making yourself look like you need live-in nursing care to wipe your ass.
You’re also making really REALLY good, logical fair points and you’re totally not moving the goalposts.
Take your bad faith ba to .ml or hexbear, you troglodyte.
Unfortunately most American voters lack a conscience, so it’s not going to happen.
If you actually want to attract people to your cause, you may want to consider changing your tone. It could also be beneficial to mention some positive things about the candidate that you recommend instead of just bashing the current regime.
I’m shouting into the void and I know it. Nothing I do or say will change anything.
I can look at the last 40 years and be astonished at how little American voters care about their own welfare, and rest assured that the election in November will likely be 49% to 49%, because for some reason they all are just exceptionally well-programmed to vote for the candidates that the wealthy want them to vote for. All of them are poorer now, both economically and socially, than they were even just ten years ago. They can see with their own two eyes that they get poorer no matter which party we elect, and it doesn’t stop them from voting solely on team color anyway.
Hell, the Democrats had Marianne Williamson, an anti-war, pro-living wage, pro-universal health care candidate who can actually form a coherent thought in their primary. They decided overwhelmingly that they wanted the old, addled warmonger to be their president, even though he’s done nothing meaningful to try and fix their poverty, opting to spend his time keeping his scumbag son out of prison and the war money flowing to other countries.
Oh no, you’re making a difference for sure. You’re absolutely pushing people AWAY from the green party.
As if you’d ever diverge from your partisan programming.
Nice job proving my point.
That’s okay. Thanks and god bless.
99% of American voters have no problem with this whatsoever, judging by the fact that they’ve spent their entire lives voting Republican or Democrat and the two parties literally have no difference of opinion on Israel. Their policy is that Israel gets charity from the American taxpayer no matter what they do.
You didn’t fly a duct-tape technical in with machine guns whirring to stop the Democrats or Republicans either.
You’re either a hypocrite or a coward or both.
99% of American voters have no problem with this whatsoever
If you’ve ever actually rolled up your sleeves and dealt with the American political system, what you’ll quickly discover is that
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Half your municipal candidates are just six real estate agents in a trench coat
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Half your state candidates are the failsons and legal counsel of whichever rich assholes currently own the bulk of the real estate
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Virtually all of your federal candidates are Ivy League schlubs who worked for someone in the party at the state or federal level in the last ten years
And these are the ones with the money, the time, and the social networks to productively run for office. Everyone else running is either a protest candidate with no name recognition or a delusional wacko with more money than sense.
These are the options on your ballot for the 99% of American voters who end up supporting on paper. The “true believers” tend to be the 20-30% of folks who try to research individual candidates and come back with heads full of hagiography. Whether they’re people who got juiced up on Beto O’Rourke or Ted Cruz, they’ve got a mythological understanding of the candidate based on an endless deluge of propaganda produced by the party.
Then you’ve got the 1% of people who really truly do the ugly work of getting people elected. And they do get a look behind the curtain. But they either stomach the horror and truck on for ideological reasons or make a play for the cash option and just look for ways to monetize the rot.
In the case of Israel, there’s enormous amounts of money to be had in the rot. Between weapons contractors, financial interests, real estate developers, and ideologically driven lobbyists, the Israel platform has oodles of cash to float itself. Nevermind the geopolitical interest of having a western allied power guarding the Mediterranean entrance to the Suez Canal.
This isn’t a “voter” problem, because there’s no real anti-Israeli option for voters available. 99% of American voters never get to choose another policy, because all the money is pointed in the direction of the Israelis.
That’s a whole lot of words to just say: “Yes, I’m willing to accept excuses and just kind of ignore the fact that I, personally, put my stamp of approval on Israeli genocide in every election.”
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FYI: Most of those braindead “am I not allowed to criticize Biden???” comments and posts on social media are a concerted effort by right-wingers from /pol and other such sewers, trying to get people to not vote against Trump. Don’t fall for it. These aren’t “lefties” or “tankies”. Just downvote, report, and ignore.
Why are they wasting effort on like 200 leftist techies? They could get a lot more bang for their buck on Facebook.
Maybe they’re involved, but a much bigger player pushing that line of reasoning is the Kremlin. They want to get Trump elected again so he cuts aid to Ukraine.
