Manjaro 24.0 Since we released Vulcan in December 2023 we worked hard to get the next release of Manjaro out there. We call it Wynsdey. This is also our first release which comes with Plasma 6. The GNOME edition has received several updates to Gnome 46 series. This includes a lot of fixes and polish when Gnome 46 originally was released in March 2024. You can find the changes made to each point-release here: 46.1. Highlights of 46 release series are: GNOME’s filemanager comes with a new glob...
  • ghostblackout@lemmy.world
    02·
    10 months ago

    I don’t like Manjaro or almost all arch bases distros because they just kinda suck and if you get mad I don’t care

    The arch bases distros I like are steam is that’s it

    Edit for people that don’t know how to read I use arch I just don’t like arch based distros except steam os

    • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
      0·
      10 months ago

      Can you elaborate on why you think they suck? IMO most of the Arch derivates fill very good roles. Arch itself is a nice distro but you can never suit every user, and the derivates do things that Arch itself would never do.

      Most importantly I believe there are lots of people who would have never used Arch vanilla but they get to enjoy “second hand Arch” and that’s a good thing, isn’t it?

      My take on the most prominent Arch derivates (forgive me if I forget any, it’s off the top of my head):

      • Endeavour has a rapid GUI installer. It may seem like a small thing but sometimes you don’t want to go through an uber-customizable multi-hour install process. It’s not a beginner vs advanced thing; seasoned users can also want to save time. This installer goes against the Arch goal of providing full install customization so it will probably never be in Arch, but it is useful.
      • Garuda goes one step further and offers lots of optimizations out of the box. As great as it is to have complete freedom to configure your system sometimes you want a distro to step in and do it for you.
      • Manjaro goes in another direction and attempts to be “stable Arch”. That may sound like a wierd thing to do with a rolling distro but it works suprisingly well. The catch is that in doing so it sacrifices a lot of what makes Arch Arch; it has a “mommy knows best” approach and tells the user to not customize their system too much. This of course is complete Arch heresy (which probably explains all the rage against it). But I think it has struck a good niche as “Arch for the lazy” – people who would like a rolling distro but are afraid of bleeding edge.
      • ghostblackout@lemmy.world
        0·
        10 months ago

        Endeavour is ok I just did like it that much I like that wallpapers

        Garuda gave up on it in the installer like the look those jelly window should never be on by default and my ThinkPad Just Said No when I tried to install it I have a t480 I was testing it on there before I put it on my main pc

        Manjaro I never got it to work properly just unstable there package installer is worse then discover (discover is not bad I just can’t get it working when I install it)

        I’m fine with people using arch bases distros I just don’t use them and I won’t force backs arch on anyone

        • someonesmall@lemmy.ml
          0·
          10 months ago

          Can you elaborate what didn’t work on Manjaro? Just curious, I’ve been using it on my gaming rig for over 5 years without problems.

          • LeFantome@programming.dev
            1·
            10 months ago

            This is not a comment on you as it is a reasonable question but I have wasted too much time arguing with Manjaro fans and I do not want to go down that road again.

            To answer the question partially, there were two classes of problem:

            1 - governance - this includes the stuff like not renewing certs and not testing core packages. My system became unbootable more than once and one of those times I was not knowledgeable enough to recover and ended up reinstalling ( mostly a skill issue in retrospect ).

            2 - package delays - I found more than once that the delay in releasing packages caused problems with the AUR. First, it sometimes meant I could not use AUR stuff because of missing dependencies ( like when that was the only place you could get dotnet - now in extras ). That was frustrating but not destructive. Worse, delays sometimes caused AUR dependencies to get installed instead of ones from extras or community ( because they were not there yet ). This happened with newish software or with packages that had been renamed or refactored. Once the AUR packages had been installed, they would sometimes stay even after the packages appeared in Manjaro repos. Then sometimes the AUR packages would disappear ( be abandoned as they had been moved into the core repos ) and I would end up with packages that would not update because of dependencies or where I would end up using source packages that took forever to build ( because git versions were the only ones available ). I thought all this was just the nature of the AUR until I switched to Arch it stopped happening. I have installed Manjaro since and had it happen again. I do use the AUR heavily.

            Sorry, I ended up saying more than I wanted to. I wanted to answer your question but I do not want to argue. Honestly, if Manjaro works for you, I am very happy. If you think I am wrong, that is ok. I wish you luck.

    • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      01·
      10 months ago

      Not liking Arch is exclusively a skill issue. You may prefer stable release distros, but you won’t find a rolling release distro better than Arch.

      • LeFantome@programming.dev
        1·
        10 months ago

        I agree that Arch ( well Arch and EOS ) is the best rolling distro but I am not sure I am willing say this not liking it is a skill issue.

        Not liking things is a preference. People are allowed to disagree. They are just not allowed to misrepresent the facts.

        • LeFantome@programming.dev
          1·
          10 months ago

          My favourite thing about Arch is pretty much always finding the software I am looking for in either the repos or the AUR. This includes commercial stuff like Rider, Postman, and Burp Suite.

          It is also great to always have an up-to-date kernel. I started using bcachefs just days after support was added to the kernel ( as an example ).

          Do you always find what you want in the Debian repos? What do you do when you don’t?

        • 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          1·
          10 months ago

          Tumbleweed is way worse, zypper is very bad, it’s backed by a corporation, no AUR, it’s honestly quite mediocre.