• Got_Bent@lemmy.world
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    The only surviving adult MOVE member, Ramona Africa, refused to testify in court and was charged and convicted on charges of riot and conspiracy; she served seven years in prison.

    Jesus Christ! No criminal charges against police so let’s imprison the sole surviving victim!

    (She did get a handsome settlement years later, so there’s that but holy hell man)

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      Devil’s Advocacy, read at your own risk:

      According to the police, they evacuated the civilians from the area and engaged in a gunfight with the compound which housed known terrorists called MOVE, an anti-government and anti-technology religious organization whose members were all black and changed their last names to Africa as a form of symbolism who had years earlier killed a police officer leading to a lifelong conviction for 9 of it’s members.

      The terrorists were armed with automatic weapons and a gas generator on the roof of the compound. After the 2 small bombs opened a hole on the roof and took out the generator, the terrorists supposedly even shot at firefighters who approached the scene which allowed the fire to spread. 61 home burnt with Six adults and five children as fatalities.

      My take: The police should not have automatic anti-tank rifles or C4 Satchel Bombs. They should never have attempted to preemptively remove MOVE members from any residence, regardless of the status of their parole. This is not the job for people with less training than the people who cut hair for a living. The city held on to some of the corpses for 35 years, and all of the children were cremated and buried in unmarked graves, which is pretty fucked up.

      But also, I’m certainly not on MOVE’s side in this situation. Those morons fucked around and found out. The fact that there are people around today who know about all this and wanted to pick up that banner for themselves is beyond moronic.

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        *terrorists as labeled by the fucking mayor…

        We got goddamned Vote Quimby down here deciding who’s a terrorist because they got warrants, trash, and a bullhorn being a public nuisance.

        Edit: -Terrorists armed with a… gas generator (commence pearl clutching)

        -what the actual fucking fuck did the Keystone Kops think would happen if they dropped explosives on the gas generator in hopes of “taking out the “rooftop bunker”” which was most likely the goddamned rooftop access. They had to know. And if the didn’t, they were criminally stupid.

        -you mention that anyone picking up their banner today is (some derogatory term I forget). Can you really not see why someone would look to extremes when faced with systemic oppression?

        -and: 2A rights for everyone! “oh, only WASPy, good, christian tightey-whitey men, sorry - not you… When any minority holds a gun they’re obviously criminals.” and yes, I know there were warrants and shootouts in this case. But justice wasn’t served.

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          Idk, I’m several drinks in atm, but you’d make big money picking cherries.

          *terrorists as labeled by the fucking mayor… a terrorist because they got warrants, trash, and a bullhorn being a public nuisance.

          Alos Warrants for making terroristic threats, illegal possession of firearms, parole violations, contempt of court

          Terrorists armed with a… gas generator (commence pearl clutching)

          And automatic weapons. You used the … to erase the automatic weapons part.

          what the actual fucking fuck did the Keystone Kops think would happen if they dropped explosives on the gas generator in hopes of “taking out the “rooftop bunker”” which was most likely the goddamned rooftop access. They had to know. And if the didn’t, they were criminally stupid.

          Wow, not knowing where people store their generators is the bar for criminal stupidity? I have a different bar

          and: 2A rights for everyone! “oh, only WASPy, good, christian tightey-whitey men, sorry - not you… When any minority holds a gun they’re obviously criminals.” and yes, I know there were warrants and shootouts in this case. But justice wasn’t served.

          Ah yes, story we hear every week outta murica, them white folks, shooting their automatic assault rifles at the cops and getting away with it

          /s

          Seriously, if you start a business picking cherries, I’d like to invest, I haven’t seen anyone so skilled since 2020