So I joined a new gym last year and was pleasantly surprised. They gave me a smart card to get in and out, that’s it, no app, no accounts, no nothing. Well, today I got to the gym and saw the announcement that they are phasing out the access with the smart card and starting to use, you guessed it, an app.

Now, I know this is not such a big deal in the grand scheme of things. But I’m just tired of this trend of replacing perfectly functioning systems with apps (public transport tickets come to mind). Just more ways to harvest people’s data, I guess…

Ah and by the way, in my previous gym they not only required an app for accessing the place, they also incentivized people to track their workouts, meals and bodyweight using the gym’s app (of course I never used any of these features).

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    10 months ago

    This desperately needs to become an illegal industry. Perfectly legitimate businesses are letting their real business fall to the wayside as they convert their profits to a fucking consumer spying business. I’m sick of it. I’m sick of all the tracking, and I’m sick of ads popping up in new places all the freaking time. You go to pump gas and a commercial starts blaring in your face. You can’t escape it. You can’t get a moment of peace to sit with your thoughts. It’s negatively affecting our entire society, yet every business is pursuing it with zeal and the politicians aren’t doing jack shit to protect the people. Matter of fact the government is buying the data too. I never imagined this is what the future would look like when I was growing up.

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    10 months ago

    Bring them a dumb phone. Ask them to install the app on it for you. Tell then you are not buying a new phone just to use the gym.

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      10 months ago

      And they will say you can’t go to the gym, then. I agree this is enshittification but this isn’t a magic trick that lets you bypass the app

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        10 months ago

        It’s not, but I pushed back on my gym and they got me a barcode key tag. The app just shows a barcode anyway so I lucked out. I took a picture of the barcode and use that to get into the gym. Doesn’t hurt to try

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          10 months ago

          Doing that makes it so they need to support the old system since some people keep asking for it. All I’m saying is, your actions help so thank you!

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              10 months ago

              They’re not a government institution providing necessary services, so I think it’s legal pretty much everywhere. Same with places accepting payment by card only.

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        10 months ago

        This isn’t a magic trick. This is more about pushing and seeing how far they would bend.

        Like what you said, if all else it’s a way out of the stupid agreements with gyms.

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            10 months ago

            So if you can’t get in a gym because of a technology they added after you signed, they will just continue to charge you?

            That’s what you think will happen?

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              Yes that’s absolutely what will happen. They likely have language in the contract you signed allowing them to do just that.

              You are paying for access to the gym. They don’t have to provide you access via a card or a list or an app - they probably specify that they can refuse access for a variety of reasons, including “safety and privacy” or some shit they can shoehorn an app into. You don’t have a legal right to access a place via the mechanism you choose.

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                10 months ago

                Looking online at similar situations people had their membership canceled by management. Other cases showed bring able to enter by a phone number, by their old tag, or ID verification. Looks like it happened for people whose app kept on crashing or a work phone that wouldn’t allow installs.

                Which gym would just keep charging you if you said you can’t get in?

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        10 months ago

        Assume they’d let ask you to have staff let you in every time, same as someone whose battery died. Pretty soon they’d recognize you and quickly buzz/wave you along, I figure.

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          That’s how I play the game, you get on first name basis with people too that way…

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    10 months ago

    My old college dorm did this, I told them I don’t have a smartphone (lie) and they gave me an access card that works 100% of the time without needing a charge. They might do the same at your gym.

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    10 months ago

    My gym does this. I carry one my old phones in my console with nothing but the gym app on it. I turn it on when I park, it connects to wifi while I’m walking in, I scan the code then turn it off and throw it in my bag.

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    The only thing I want that a gym might have is a pull up bar. Other than that, two kettlebells plus cals plus running give me more than enough challenge. Gymnastics rings on a long belt plus a sturdy tree branch can stand in for a pull up bar.

    Unless you are a pro and need access to a climbing gym, which is very hard to completely replace without a trip to a boulder, gyms are rip offs.

    I exercise on and off all my life, with at least 20 exercising years. I did college gyms, ymca, paid gyms, and once even a bona fide body building club with a proper hulking ph. d. as a trainer. I have plenty of experience with many modalities.

    My two cents, look into advanced cals, and running, and look up “dynamic tension” by Charles Atlas, and screw the gym. If you can, add some kettlebells and a pull up bar. With dynamic tension you can do pulling movements without a pull up bar.

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    i hate apps as well, but there is some efficiency gained in not having to manage the infrastructure required for ‘cards’. its not always about the data mining.

    i have ‘utility’ device that is an old cell phone with no cellular access used for this kind of nonsense. i also use it for music (pseudo-ipod)

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      10 months ago

      Great use for an old phone! I have some lying around. This is one of those forehead-slapping moments for me.

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      For not having some infra managing “cards”, to have some infra managing apps. Let’s be real, that infra (and managing work) most likely is being out sourced to another company. I think the “efficiency gained” is minimal, but rather the cost to operate. With apps, they can recoup some cost by selling your data.

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      10 months ago

      its not always about the data mining.

      If OP tells us the name of the app (fine if not, it may be a local one to them), we can look at the exodus report, maybe also the App Manager “detected libraries” report too.

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    10 months ago

    That sucks. The last gym I was at had the access cards too which was great. I’m fortunate now to be able to have a home gym, so I don’t have to worry about that kind of enshittification.

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    10 months ago

    totally fair to be upset IMO. spare a thought for my friend whose gym rolled out mandatory fingerprint scanning for entry, then mandatory facial recognition a few months later (they cancelled their membership)