I’m sure this won’t prompt another massive wave of missile strikes all over Ukraine in retaliation
This feels like reading about a boxing match, in which every hit by Thomas Hearns is covered breathlessly, while a blizzard of blows by Sugar Ray Leonard go utterly unremarked upon.
A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR
Honestly kind of impressed slash glad that they picked a military target and didn’t just 9/11 a random office building.
in 1987, a West German teenager flew a Cessna 172 all the way to Moscow and landed in in Red Square
huh, TIL.
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Funny, but I see Ukraine is at the “what about wolfpacks!? We can collapse their economy and logistics chains!” Stage of denial about military prospects.
The fact of the matter is that it is relatively easy to alter production for resiliency and push your construction sector to rapidly rebuild factories. The one exception to this is ships, and even that doesn’t work, as we saw with the Nazi blockade of the UK in 1940.
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Finally, a Wunderwaffe that works.
Look up the design of the V rockets for me real quick.
Why can’t you do it yourself? You’re on the internet.
why are you replying to tell me that when you already know i’m aware of it? to pose a rhetorical as a comeback. so this is completely redundant 😆
The better question is why you ask me to look up the design of the V rockets when I obviously know what they look like, lmao.
you can probably figure that out alone
Too bad I don’t give a shit.
that’s freaking badass. so, how did the v1 propellor bomb alter the trajectory of the reich in the end?
There’s something poetic about a drone factory getting drone struck.
I wonder if that will factor into the logistics of their production.
Do you find this image recognizable, friend?
nice plane for delivering two big balls of yarn
but wait there’s more! order now and we’ll attach a giant LED flashlight on the tail to light the path on those dark lonely nights in the cold!
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[starts buzzing too]
Plan A: The Americans sell us and subsidize a fleet of F-16s, fully equipped with state of the art target-lock AMRAAMS.
Plan B: Charlie’s dad works a lot and probably won’t notice his weekender is missing for quite a while. Load her up, boys!
Shit, we should tell them there’s Russians working at Raytheon.
Can I just go on record as to say that your username is 10/10 in my book?
tbf it’s been a trope in sci-fi since the 80s and possibly earlier.
Literally the plot of multiple PKD books. Usually with humanity staying below ground; safe from a non-existant war.
PKD? Ah… Phillip K Dick.
There’s also the “sci-fi war porn” series, BOLO started by Keith Laumer.
Okay, yeah, respect where it’s due, the field expedient cruise missile does work.
How much does a tomahawk missile cost? I think cessnas run like 200k or 400k
Tomahawks tend to fly a bit faster and have a more focused payload.
Doing a Flying Timothy McVeigh certainly creates a large explosion. I have to question whether this strike had a meaningful impact on drone production, any more than McVeigh’s strike had a meaningful impact on the FBI’s ability to operate in the US Southwest. A ballistic missile would have had the same penetration and done far more damage.
TIL that it was an FBI building.
Federal building generally. It had a bunch of offices, including the DEA and the ATF. The latter is what he was (mostly) targeting, since it was (mostly) in response to Ruby Ridge and Waco.
it hit a residential annex, so production is not slowed whatsoever
This is precisely why the U.S. didn’t want them to have long range missiles
So they’re going to force an escalation with a small fleet of 9/11’ers instead
civilian planes are now military targets
great job!
Cessna planes were already being extensively used as military reconnaissance planes so this hasn’t really changed anything in that regard.
Putin harden your heart and increase your attacks
Or don’t. Cessnas are reasonably easy to target and shoot down, from a missile defense perspective. If this is all the Ukrainians have left, just buy some Iron Dome tech from Israel and maybe take a unilateral step towards ending this nightmare.
I thought Israel was now actively favoring and aiding Ukraine
That’s news to me.
They might be playing both ends.
What both ends, Ukraine declare constant support for Israel and vice versa, also both countries are dogs on the same leash held by Uncle Sam. The only contention point is that US treat flow to Israel is much more steady and unconditional because Israel is the still useful and Ukraine usefullnes is nearing the end.
But this kind of thing does push Russia towards the end goal of dismantling Ukraine as a sovereign state rather than simply taking the Donbas Republics and drawing the line there. As long as a sovereign Ukraine exists, it will be a hotbed for this kind of pseudo terrorist attack.
As long as a sovereign Ukraine exists
Sovereign Ukraine don’t exist since 2014 and won’t exist even after the war, whatever’s left of it will be either Russia or US protectorate. Russia would probably left it alone with just the neutrality declarations enshrined in law, but west gives them no room for any illusion of neutral Ukraine in every single of their relevant communicates.
But this kind of thing does push Russia towards the end goal of dismantling Ukraine as a sovereign state rather than simply taking the Donbas Republics and drawing the line there.
The original Russian policy (under Putin, no less) was to do the same kind of neoliberal puppeteering that Western states accomplished in Germany and Egypt and Japan. Use tight economic relations with the threat of targeted sanctions (and the occasional FSB knee-capper) to keep Ukrainian aristocracy in line. And the western response was to keep fanning the flames of insurrection until the country balkinized like a dropped egg.
Now he’s pivoted back to a more traditional boots-on-the-ground occupation, a la America’s domination of Haiti and Panama or the USSR dominion over Hungary and Czechoslovakia. And the western response has been to put up a losing counter-insurgency a la South Vietnam.
But the idea of Ukraine as a sovereign state was never really on the table. Ukranians had a shot at picking their own master back in the '00s/'10s. And they might have found a Turkey/Saudi/Israeli style middle-ground, where they played Russia and America off one another for a better position at the Cheap Imports / Military subsidies negotiating table. But they were always doomed to be beholden to someone.
As long as a sovereign Ukraine exists, it will be a hotbed for this kind of pseudo terrorist attack.
Ukranians had no chill. They simply couldn’t resist doing their own little Serbian genocide in the East. And as Russia proved in Chechnya, that was a red line they weren’t going to let Ukrainian fascists cross. Losing influence over the executive branch for a few years was a pill Putin could swallow (so long as Ukraine didn’t mind giving up Crimea). But ethnic cleansing as a tool of political consolidation? Nah, dawg. Not on United Russia’s watch.
But the idea of Ukraine as a sovereign state was never really on the table. Ukranians had a shot at picking their own master back in the '00s/'10s. And they might have found a Turkey/Saudi/Israeli style middle-ground, where they played Russia and America off one another for a better position at the Cheap Imports / Military subsidies negotiating table. But they were always doomed to be beholden to someone.
Yanukovych was trying this (libs saying he was Russian puppet are full of shit), but Yushchenko before him was typical comprador and i won’t even mention the maidan gang.
holy shit mom look a liberal
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really asking the wrong guy
Is a Cessna full of dynamite a technical?
cool terrorists take notes, it’s kind of amazing that worked & wasn’t intercepted
In fairness cessnas have a…reputation for effectively penetrating Russian airspace.
