• Maoo [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I’m not aware of anyone here that says Trump was “good” on foreign policy. The critique is that he’s a substantially less effective steward of the imperial machine and even does accidental propaganda work against it.

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        1 year ago

        Untrue to what degree though? One of his biggest scandals was attempting to refuse military aid to Ukraine in an effort to get dirt on Biden. Ultimately ineffective, but his attempted actions in this scenario prove the point.

          • Maoo [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            1 year ago

            The point is in the air quotes, as parent was (and is) being condescending and escalatory rather than engage in a comradely way. My hope was that by pointing out they were being condescending to more than just myself might give them pause and to change the way they were interacting. As you can see, that strategy of mine didn’t work lol.

            Your question is about relevance, and I actually agree. That was actually my point in its own less direct way. My grandparent reply was to say they were mischaracterizing a sentiment but the response didn’t actually address that, so I drew attention to the misdirection. I think I was unclear about that being the point, though.

            • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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              1 year ago

              Yes. You’re literally speaking for the 26k users on Hexbear.

              Nobody really thinks that, like a MAGA communist might say, Trump is somehow “less dangerous” or whatever. Or “at least he’s honest” or “reveals the dreck of U.S. imperialism.”

              He’s done more to radicalize people to the ultra-right than most U.S. Presidents.

              • Maoo [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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                1 year ago

                The idea that Trump was a less competent imperialist is very popular here. You are straw manning this to mean, “every person who has every registered an account here agrees with me”. Do you think this is a reasonable way to approach what I’ve disagreed with you about?

                Can you state, in your own words, what points I’ve made?

              • zed_proclaimer [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                1 year ago

                26k users lmao. 26k accounts, of which 90% are dead or banned, and the remaining 10% include tons of alts and duplicates. There’s probably like 2000 active users on this site.