I don’t know what everyone means when they use ‘rule’ in the title and at this point I’m too afraid to ask. Please enlighten me.
I don’t know what everyone means when they use ‘rule’ in the title and at this point I’m too afraid to ask. Please enlighten me.
The very first community I blocked - let those who enjoy it do so but I do not. Unfortunately, the Fediverse shows you everything by default rather than things that you more or less want to, so blocking communities lacks the negative implications here that like blocking someone’s phone or email address would elsewhere. So like if you want to block sports, you have to do so for every single team, league, and even type, plus all the new communities that continue to be made in the future. This is just the Fediverse’s normal.
A couple things. From my experience with Lemmy, you can subscribe to communities you want to see, the same way you could subscribe to subreddits. There’s a subscribed feed, a local feed, and an all feed.
The way Reddit handled this is that there was a default set of subreddits that everyone would get. Things like /r/pics … Whether you were browsing as a guest or as a user, by default, you could see that sub. I believe there was an option for “all” but nobody used it AFAIK. So you started with a small default (whatever Reddit thought you should see), and went from there. I’m sure, in more recent times on Reddit, it will also show you things that the algorithm wants you to see, either because Reddit is being paid to show it to you, or because it’s adjacent to your currently subscribed subreddits.
Lemmy isn’t substantially different when it comes to the subscribed feed, with one big exception: you don’t really start with anything. So the subscribed feed is pretty bare, but the local feed is full of anything on the same instance as you are, and the all feed is everything that’s local or has been brought in by federation. There may be some limits on this, for example, to NSFW stuff, but I’m not certain and it’s likely up to the discretion of each Lemmy instance admin to make those choices.
The difference is in an exclusionary mindset vs an inclusionary mindset. Reddit follows an exclusionary mindset, eg. We’re only going to show you what you say you want and exclude all others. Lemmy is more inclusionary, where you will see everything unless you say otherwise.
The same functionality exists here, like it did on Reddit, to only see what you’re subscribed to, but you have to go and find what you want, subscribe, and then stick to your subscribed feed.
I’ve personally spent a lot of time on the /c/all feed specifically to find what communities I want to subscribe to so eventually, I can just stick to the subscribed feed. I’m not too the point where I think the subscribed feed has quite enough communities to keep me engaged, but I’m getting there.
The option exists and you don’t need to block entire communities to get there, but you can use block for it if you want. There’s nothing wrong with either methodology.
Thank you for explaining this.
I don’t know what some people were assuming that I meant, but ofc I mean that I was browsing the “All” feed (what else could I have meant? well, I suppose “New” also, and ngl I do switch back and forth between those two, though spend >98% of my time on “All”), and that I wanted something in-between having to subscribe to each and every single thing individually, vs. EVERYTHING (with like a ton of sports, it used to be a bunch of foreign-language communities - which is… fine, I don’t begrudge most any non-illegal community its entire existence? - and cooking, etc.).
My own “Local” barely has anything, so perhaps that is a source of bias - StarTrek.Online has roughly 2 posts per day, if that; and Discuss.Online where I was previously was the same; and Kbin.Social where I was before that literally has no Local mode at all iirc!
Anyway, to clarify, what I want is to start with inclusivity, then begin narrowing it down a bit - and all the better would be to use a toggle rather than a full ban, or even just limit the frequency of things so that e.g. I do not see 4 different posts about cooking from 4 different cooking communities in a row, followed by 4 different sports, followed by knitting, followed by… well, anyway, I just am not interested in scrolling endlessly to find even one thing that interests me, that way. This way I actually find TONS more posts than starting with exclusivity and trying to work upwards from that. (ironically, at the same time, it also misses many posts compared to visiting each community itself, but they tend to be the lowest-upvoted and commented-on ones; so anyway, it is what it is)
But for some reason, most people here that are choosing to respond are arguing against that, citing how it “won’t work” (I mean… I already do it, literally daily, and have been for months?), as if I am somehow trying to take something away from them, somehow, but I am just talking about curating my own personal feed, which works for me, until we can get something better going on.
Also, there is the potential to be even more inclusive if the user has stipulated that they have a particular preference, when a community is new and struggles to gain acceptance in the wider Fediverse, the way that I am talking about. e.g. if someone says that they enjoy sports, and a new baseball community emerges, then it could be helpful to show up less often for people that do not like sports at all, but conversely more often for people who have indicated that they do - even if they have not subscribed to it yet. Sort of like how targeted ads work, except not being driven by seeking profits, and instead seeking out a genuine connection between a user and what content type they have asked to be notified about.
Well, it’s fun to dream. :-)
I get what you’re saying. What you are describing is the core fundamental idea behind, what is now, almost derogatorily called “the algorithm”.
It’s great, in concept, to implement such a system, right up until someone decides to change the way it chooses what you see for the benefit of advertisers… Which is pretty much what’s happened to every social media network, and to some extent, Google searches… Someone decided to cram what was essentially an ad into everyone’s faces by manipulating the algorithm, and not “SEO” is being weaponized against the users. SEO as a concept is a way to effectively manipulate the selection algorithm to artificially push your content to the top. It’s not a new concept, which is why there are still companies called “AZ construction” and other related names; those business names were largely popular due to the phone book (aka “yellow pages”) so when going down the list of companies for a product or service you need, they would be the first name you saw, simply because the phone book was sorted alphabetically.
The enshittification of all of that is exactly the same reason so many of us abandoned Reddit.
Algorithms, great idea, horrible in practice.
Been here since the redipocalypse, browse All daily… Haven’t seen a single post about sports.
Um… congrats, I guess?
Though there are still location-specific communities on lemmy.ml, e.g. !india@lemmy.ml, that you may or may not enjoy wanting to curate into or out of your various feeds.
But I am not trying to tell you how to live your life? I am just answering your question irt the fact that such posts do exist across the Fediverse. Perhaps you are not seeing them if nobody on your tech-focused instance has subscribed to any of those communities.
I also am not seeing any sports stuff on /c/all. My block list is only some nsfw stuff and Star Trek communities (not because it’s not an amazing show, but because I’ve only seen two episodes and don’t understand anything.)