I use the apps my friends use but it gets tiring to keep up with so many.
i really fucking hate discord.
Why does EVERYTHING have to be proprietary. Fucking capitalism.
I don’t get why people like it either. It’s a mess of chats.
Friends don’t make friends install chat apps (besides Signal)
Not sure why you were downvoted. I’ve successfully made most of my friends, and my mom for that matter, talk to me on Signal.
The comment implies Signal is peak chat when it’s flawed & other than maybe onboarding, isn’t superior to alternatives—with the phone number being a pro for onboarding is a con for privacy. It still requires you have an Android or iOS primary device (fueling that duopoly). They don’t want you installing it from a safer space like F-Droid. They still by default send notification metadata to Google & Apple (websocket support exists but drains a fair amount of battery & they refuse to support UnifiedPush). They still ship/use Apple emoji on Android & Linux. It’s still a centralized system you can’t self-host. They still have that missing part of the source code (where I would assume the feds planted something). It still isn’t a good space large chats. And the Electron desktop apps are far too bloated.
And the Electron desktop apps are far too bloated.
No argument. Electron is categorically silly in its own right, lol.
They don’t want you installing it from a safer space like F-Droid.
F-Droid is by no means safe; use Droidify.
They still by default send notification metadata to Google & Apple (websocket support exists but drains a fair amount of battery & they refuse to support UnifiedPush).
Easy: use the FOSS version of Molly instead of the default Signal app.
Hi, could you touch on why F-Droid is less safe? Is it because they package (I think that’s the term?) stuff themselves?
Certainly.
To answer your question: yeah, pretty much.
I got all of this information, originally, through this guy’s channel (Side Of Burritos on YouTube):
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzpVI4zaso0
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAbgeJau3eE
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFz57zNR_M0
It’s also worth mentioning that part three of that series ended up directly inspiring another project called Obtanium, which he then did a video on here:
Remember E-Mail, everyone?
A lot of people around me are genuinely confused when your email is not
firstname.lastname@gmail.com, as they mostly just use it for confirming logins. That’s how bad the situation is.Having an untraditional gTLD like
.xyzmakes many confused as well, especially those not in IT.
After posting I realized an exported PNG is the same size and looks much better. Enjoy.
if you won’t talk to me except through insta then you’re not worth being friends with just fucking text me like a normal ass human.
Matrix and bridges
Only if you tell your contacts about it, and explain to them what a bridge does
Why?
Take Signal to Matrix for example. They use different encryption protocols, which means a message sent from one end has to be decrypted, and then re-encrypted with the protocol of the recipient before they can actually receive it.
So basically, your encryption is not very e2e anymore, and the fact that someone can set this up, effectively giving encryption keys to a third party without their contacts being able to do anything about it is pretty fucked.
Oh, and different TOS between different services also come into play.
So if you do this, at least tell your contacts about it, so they can make an informed decision about whether or not that’s okay for them.
We need a new Trillian or Adium. Fucking anti-interop gatekeepers.
Just never interact with anyone. Christ, it’s not that hard people! (This comment doesn’t count.)
We’re all bots. You still haven’t interacted with a person.
Wait, do you guys have friends?
I use telegram mostly because it have great features and its certainly better than any meta apps in privacy and private enough imo. It was easy to get my friends and family on telegram because they loved those features, signal is just… boring.
Sometimes boring is better, sticking to the fundamentals. I didn’t like when signal tried to mix crypto into it.
interestingly it’s worse than whatsapp regarding privacy
and how? dont send me a decade old audit on the protocol which telegram abandoned around the same time.
chats are not e2e encrypted by default and group chats are never e2e encrypted. even whatsapp is e2ee for every chat.
And yet no one was able to crack it.
it’s not about cracking anything it’s about the telegram owners being able to read your messages???
You can use E2E??? !!!
not in group chats and most people don’t care about it for 1-1 chats as well.
- Have friends
- Talk to them.
What kind of a take is this? What are you trying to say? “don’t use messaging”? Amish take? Genuinely trying to understand
Literally me… I’ve 5/7 of these installed and even have Threema in addition. I don’t need more than one Meta Inc product in my life though
I like Threema a lot, but it lacks basic features such as text editing, so I can’t imagine recommending it to anyone.
You mean text editing after sending? I would definitely not consider that a “basic” feature - we are talking about E2EE here, editing a message that you already encrypted locally and then sent on its way is by no means trivial - especially with the kind of E2EE that we have nowadays.
Hey what’s the app tho?
From left to right we have instagram, signal, whatsapp, element, discord, telegram, and messenger
Isn’t Instagram the same as messanger?
In terms of being useless, most certainly. But they are two separate services despite being owned by the same company.
I remember when WebOS had unified messaging. Those were the days. 👴
What is the middle one?
Element. It’s a popular client for Matrix, which is a federated messaging platform (similar to lemmy and mastodon) with different instances.
Is it cross platform with other major messagers?
Not directly no… But there are bridges you can implement (or use on servers that already have it implemented) to connect to those other services.
