• CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
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    If chess were a new game released today, I imagine a lot of these “why’d they make it political” types would probably object to the fact that the most powerful character in the game is the only one that’s clearly stated to be a woman.

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      Well, originally, the piece is Vizier - king’s advisor, the gender of which isn’t specified. (but implied to be male?)

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        The wazir only moved a single space horizontally or vertically.

        The name change from wazir to queen started as early as the 10th century, but the current move set dates from the late 15th century.

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            But we’re talking about that piece as the most powerful in the game, which happened in Europe, where it had been called a queen for hundreds of years.

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              Yes, the modern, more powerful piece is still called that even in some languages in Europe, like in Turkish and several Slavic languages, like Ukrainian and Russian. In Polish it’s apparently called something akin of “top general”.

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    It’s not about killing the king. The king can never be killed. It’s about keeping him in check until he can’t move anymore

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      It’s also worth noting the term is “capture”. And outside of rare instance - you didn’t really want to kill knights and the like: You captured them, and ransomed them back to their family/liege lord etc.

      And there is a reason the term “Kings Ransom” exists. John the II of France for instance was captured, and Ransomed for something like 300000 gold coins of the day - something like 300 million or up to about 3 billion in today’s dollars (conversion is a little fuzzy but to put it simply: A BLOODY TONNE OF MONEY).

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    The Fallout community is ludicrous with this. New Vegas is one of the most politically charged games in recent years, and yet chuds think it’s somehow not extremely anticapitalist and pro-leftist.

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        The NCR is both Capitalist and Imperialist, the fact that the people of the Mojave don’t want the Neoliberal expansionist empire or the fascist gang of slavers is more to the general leftist, almost Anarchist slant.

        It’s only centrist if you consider the NCR as the end of the spectrum, and not just a lesser of two right wing evils.

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    Chess does not involve politics, because there is no decision making in groups. The chess in Harry potter where the pieces can talk to you… That has politics

  • The story I heard (now apocryphal) is the chess was invented (using live actors as pieces) to allow a prince to explain to his mother why it was necessary to kill his brother on the field of battle. A literal lesson in politics.

    Sadly, I can’t find the source and Wikipedia says the origins of Chess are debated by scholarly historians.

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      That sounds like the kind of fact that they’d have had on an early series of QI, only to retract it in a later series and redistribute points.

      Just checked, looks like that story comes from an 11th century Persian epic poem, Shahnameh. It doesn’t seem to be referenced in that article, but is discussed in this one.