“Losing free labor will hurt our business”
-signed, the plantation owner who made $193,000,000 last year
Besides having their community migrate to Lemmy, the thing moderators can do that impacts reddit the most is making their sub NSFW, because
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Reddit gets no ad revenue from NSFW subs, and
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NSFW subs will be excluded from their $60m/year AI training deal.
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Nothing can really kill reddit, but as far as content goes I expect it will follow the same path facebook did where the only people who eventually really interact on it will be conspiracy theorists and moms.
I modded a few subreddits but left it all behind
I just remembered the other day I’m listed as the only moderator of a subreddit with a couple thousand users and haven’t done anything for it in about a year.
Me too. I had really hoped more mods would move their communities to a Lemmy instance and promote it on Reddit but that’s largely not the case.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The company also said that bad publicity and media coverage, such as the kind that stemmed from the API protests, could be a risk to Reddit’s success.
The Form S-1 said bad PR around Reddit, including its practices, prices, and mods, “could adversely affect the size, demographics, engagement, and loyalty of our user base,” adding:
Reddit’s filing also said that negative publicity and moderators disrupting the normal operation of subreddits could hurt user growth and engagement goals.
Reddit’s filing discusses losing moderators as a business risk and notes how important third-party tools are in maintaining mods:
Any disruption to, or lack of availability of, these third-party tools could harm our moderators’ ability to review content and enforce community rules.
Nondisclosure agreement requirements and the lack of a finalized developer platform also drive uncertainty around the longevity of the third-party Reddit app ecosystem, according to devs Ars spoke with this year.
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I really don’t know what could kill Reddit at this point. It’s so different now with Reddit’s new UI, the awards, blocking VPN connections, and Reddit licensing user content for AI training. We saw how things went with the blackout and how so many people caved instantly and were willing to fill the roles of the people that left once subreddits were forced back open.
Maybe blocking NSFW content or requiring users to verify their age?
Can’t kill what is already dead.
The communities are all but gone.
The signal to noise ratio is the worst it’s ever been.
Most subs are barely moderated. Actual mod involvement (as opposed to Automod) is low.
Reddit now openly collects and sells user data.
The Reddit we knew is dead and gone.
The only place I’ve seen that still has some life and great energy is r/comics. If lemmy’s version(s) of that group could attract the regular content creators I wouldn’t have any other reason to visit reddit.
“Could hurt its business”
Apparently we didn’t do much. I’m just happy to be on Lemmy so I don’t have to care.
Reddit needs to die
Reverse psychology Uno card attempt to get any remaining mod or community they don’t control to out themselves as a risk and be ousted, imo.
The last one showed four important things:
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It can be coordinated super easily and has broad support amongst the mods
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It’s popular with most users outside of sports subreddits and they’re hostile toward scab mods and admins.
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Reddit fundamentally has zero response to it and anything they try compounds their issues. They can’t offer mods anything short of the wage that 24/7 customer service job for a multi-billion dollar company should entail. They can’t censor the protests without it causing a Streisand effect and major backlash which reinforces points 1 and 2.
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Mods don’t have any control over the subreddit anyway. It’s arbitrarily taken away and given to anyone who asks for it. The only consequence for anyone protesting is reddit saying you can’t do the volunteer work that you’re protesting over the conditions of already. The next schmuck still has to do that work with those conditions knowing reddit hates them just as much as they hated you.
I think the next mod strike is the breaking point for the website. They’re going to have a worse response, people are going to be angrier, and the shareholders are going to add a whole new layer of demands that can’t be enforced without making everything worse for mods and users. Once that mod exodus hits, the website instantly becomes unusable and full of wildly illegal things. There’s no Plan B for that which isn’t very expensive.
Pretty sure most subreddits that put it to a vote had the userbases support the blackouts as well.
r/snackexchange was fun. I sabotaged the subreddit by embracing Spez’s call for user democracy, making everything about it up for a vote every day. Some weird little goober ratfucked that and the admins made them the head mod, despite them only participating in the subreddit one time ten years before and there being two existing mods who programmed third-party tools we were protesting for. Those tools were necessary for running the subreddit. The users instantly turned on this guy despite me being a more or less absent mod for years and destroying the subreddit in protest. He became a proxy for the admins and caught so much flak that he has only posted a couple times since, and not in r/snackexchange.
There were a few larger subreddits that got mod couped with similar hate toward the scabs, but having seen the worst case example it’s great. They do their big power move and it’s the
gun. When they threatened to do it in r/Science the guy requesting it was an antivaxxer who markets herbal supplements. Let a thousand fuckups bloom.
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