• Zyratoxx
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    3510 months ago

    To me, a european, those urban areas packed with the same house over and over again always seem so depressing and boring. Is there any variety or does it look like this for kilometers miles?

    • @scoobford@lemmy.zip
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      310 months ago

      Generally it is each subdivision, but it can be larger groups of homes like that.

      They are depressing, but people buy them because they’re generally new construction and represent good value. You get over it if it saves you enough $$$.

      • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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        110 months ago

        I’ve yet to go into any new construction that wasn’t shit compared to the 100 year old house I grew up in. That place was rock solid. The only problem with it was a roof leak that was actually from the extension my parents had done on the 2nd floor (aka new construction). By comparison every time I go visit their new house they’ve uncovered some new shoddy workmanship from the shit builders that inly focus on cranking out houses as fast and cheap as possible. I hate so much that they sold their old place for this garbage I’m going to have to fix when I inherit it.

        • @scoobford@lemmy.zip
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          I agree, old homes have hella survivorship bias. But, you are playing roulette that nothing with fail immediately. The advantage of new construction is that you don’t have to worrru about any stupid retrofits and that you know nothing will break for at least a little bit.

          • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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            110 months ago

            nothing will break for at least a little bit.

            Has not been my experience. Yea the builder will usually fix it but I’ve seen them try to weasel out of that too.

    • @soviettaters@lemm.ee
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      310 months ago

      This isn’t what most houses are like in the US. Sure, there’s a lot like them, but places that don’t have a strong HOA (most places) become very diverse after a while. My home was built in the 60s and was initially very similar to the ones around it. Over time each house gets changed little by little and every house becomes unique.

  • @neocamel
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    What is amazing is that people would rather live like this, and have four feet of grass between them and their neighbors, than in a place twice as big with a shared wall…

    • petrescatraian
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      510 months ago

      To each their own. I do hear all sorts of sounds coming from my neighbors in my apartment. From moaning to phone alarm vibrating, sounds of various objects hitting each other, even arguing sometimes.

      Not to mention some people open their doors and windows when cooking, allegedly for the draft to get in and get the smell out of the kitchen (don’t know why they do this, just open your damn window and that’s it). And when the air goes the opposite way, the hallway of the building is a mix of various smells of whatever they cook.

      Oh, by the way, did I mention I need to take the elevator to reliably reach my apartment?

      • @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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        910 months ago

        here in sweden we do this amazing thing called “actually building things solidly”, our apartment blocks are largely solid concrete and the only thing i hear from my neighbours is when their kids drop what i can only assume to be anvils onto the floor, which results in a faint thunk.

        • petrescatraian
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          310 months ago

          @Swedneck that’s great. Here in Romania most apartments have this issue, especially those built in communism and after.

          • @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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            310 months ago

            these apartment buildings are part of the million programme back in the 60’s, where we churned out tons and tons of standardized high density housing eras much like your commie blocks.

            So it’s not a problem of being cheap or communist, it’s a problem with effective execution.

            And fwiw communist housing tends to generally be one of the better places to live, provided it’s not that one fucked up place in russia where it’s just highrises in a sea of parking lots.

            • petrescatraian
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              210 months ago

              @Swedneck I live in a communist era neighborhood myself, so I know how it is to live there. It’s generally great, but the execution of the buildings was rather poor (mine included). Some say it was for the better surveillance of the inhabitants, others say it was just rushed building. Whatever is the case, it’s still not pleasant knowing that you risk being heard by all the neighbors when you do the most normal noise.

              And I like Russian blocks as well, provided they are those Hruschocskas (or Plattenbeau?) that are 5 storey high or less. We have some as well. The areas they’re in is generally really green with tall trees, so it’s really pleasant.

              We generally use the term “commie block” to describe buildings during that area, but I included buildings raised after the '90s as well because the developers try to eschew regulations when building, so their quality is even poorer sometimes. That’s not to mean that all buildings during these times have thin walls or floors either tho.

              It’s great to hear that the buildings where you live were raised with more attention to details like these though. Probably if I’d visit/live in one a bit I’d change my opinion about our buildings from that time as well. 😁

  • Cyborganism
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    2210 months ago

    What a poor use of land and space for housing. Why not increase density with at a minimum a duplex or triplex? This is ridiculous.

  • @crispy_kilt@feddit.de
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    US-americans: apartments suck, I want a single house

    Also US-americans:

    Meanwhile, in the civilised world:

  • @MNByChoice@midwest.social
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    810 months ago

    The second car in the bottom driveway is partly in the road. This first cat is either partly in a garage, or missing. The driveways are so close that there is no street parking. I have concerns about buses (think school, not public transit) and garbage day.

  • Possibly linux
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    710 months ago

    That’s not terrible honestly. The price will vary widely depending on where it is. It seems like a good low maintenance place.

    • @Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      310 months ago

      Yeah I don’t see the issue here. My 2 bedroom condo costs more and doesn’t have parking or a yard. I’d jump on an opportunity to own a place like that if it was in a walkable neighborhood or on a public transportation line.

      • @huginn@feddit.it
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        410 months ago

        It’s not a 2 br. It’s 600 square feet.

        But agreed: housing is housing. 160k seems extortionate but that’s housing.

        • @Mossheart@lemmy.ca
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          210 months ago

          600sq feet at that price is CHEAP here in Vancouver. The average home price is about $1.2m here, and that’s getting you maybe 750 sq feet in a condo with a shitty strata(HOA), def not detached.

          Can we get to the part where the rich get eaten yet?

        • @Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          110 months ago

          My last house was 850 Sq ft and I wasn’t using the dining room at all. That’s enough space for one person or a couple.

  • @NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
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    I love that Americans would still rather have crappy rectangles of lawn that they never use for anything than build up to the edge of the plot and have more rooms. Those plots are probably slightly bigger than that of my three bedroom terrace house.

    • @SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip
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      310 months ago

      Blame the zoning laws for that. They require minimum setbacks on each side and a maximum floor area to land area ratio.

  • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    610 months ago

    What the actual fuck is that?

    It’s like a fully detached apartment you can buy.

    Honestly, I’d rather have one of those shipping container homes. Above that, I’ll live in a fucking trailer park.

  • @BaumGeist@lemmy.ml
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    510 months ago

    I’m begging developers to stop.

    The problem isn’t “not enough houses,” the problem is rich fuck “investors” buying up all the empty houses to sit on them

    • @Mossheart@lemmy.ca
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      No, don’t stop building. The problem is rich fucks and their politician friends who won’t implement any meaningful rules to curb the behaviour.

      I’m a fan of the ‘y’all can have one’ rules for home ownership. Anything after the first should come with cumulative tax penalties, +10% to the total value of your property assessment per property should be sufficient to start. So someone with three $1M homes is looking at a property tax bill of 130%.

      While I am dreaming, I’d like a pony.

      • @BaumGeist@lemmy.ml
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        210 months ago

        No, don’t stop building

        If we’re talking about dreaming, I’d like a world where humans keep to relatively small and dense habitable areas anf leave the rest of the natural world alone