was discussing this with a friend of mine (she’s an anarchist but she actually organizes and shit). she was saying there can be no such thing as revolutionary masculinity because the two things are contradictory. but i’m a marxist so contradictions really butter my bread.
i think in a utopian, communist world gender identity would be completely different, to the point where it might not even be legible to us today, but my question is more about how we get from here to there. basically, can we men find a way to not be shitheads in such a way as to bring about communism, or does that not even make sense
feel free to dunk on me if this is a dumb question
Death to America
Some things can’t be done away with by decree. To abolish is to pull something up by the root if you don’t get the root, the weed will grow back. This is the same mistake the Afghanistani communist party made by trying to outlaw religion, or China with the GPCR. You can’t abolish the nuclear family by outlawing naming babies (silly). You abolish it by creating a more attractive alternative and removing the forces that created it to begin with.
“If the current generation doesn’t meet our ideological standards they’re not worth our time” doesn’t make a lot of sense. So there’s no point organizing until everyone meets some metric of ideological purity? What if a revolutionary moment arrives with no one to guide it? And if you do organize, who will you be organizing? 20 year olds with little experience or technical knowledge? I’m not sure why people look at the GPCR and say “I want only the stuff that failed miserably”.
I’m not sure why you’d want to alienate such a large mass of the population. There’s a lot of young men out there, and it’s not like white men are the only ones struggling with finding a positive masculinity, either. What do you think happens if you openly disdain and antagonize a bunch alienated, reactionary-leaning men? Do you think a few internet poisoned leftists will demoralize them, or will it actively motivate people to turn to the right?
If you’re a Marxist, our politics are human liberation. Not rejecting anyone who doesn’t fit what we imagine a utopian society will be.
We cannot pity men who lost the social benefits of being a man because every loss to them is a gain for everyone else. Are we persecuting them? No, we are saying they have no inherent right to sex, we are saying that no form of masculinity good, we are not saying that femininity is bad, we are no longer okay with men treating women as sex objects, as house slaves, as property, as someone less than equal. We cannot view men as soldiers to fight the class war that we dispose of later because men will not fight the class war, workers will fight the class war. Men are the reactionary force against it because we live in a patriarchal society and that means men control the means of production and they will offer up women as property when there’s no more land, wages, or social mobility to be taken. And do you know why this is predominantly white men? Because black men never had the privileges of the white man in the first place. They were denied the institution of marriage, of the nuclear family, of even participating in capitalism, the black bourgeoisie never had the chance to develop sexism, they had all those moral values placed upon them by their colonizers. Sexism as we know it is a white construct. So maybe instead of trying to get the oppressor seeing OUR humanity through some twitch streamer, it’s THEIR moral imperative to become an ally and recognize without our help. And that’s a very hard thing to do, i know that a lot of the baizuos on the internet doing ecommunism or whatever you want to call to it through prolonged radicalization from different propagandists, and they are fucking rare. Most leftists are not them, and the only way we can make the average young man a leftist is through early education when they are a child, so that’s why I think their a lost cause, I think it would be better to target the right wing propagandists and make it harder for them to speak rather than trying to debate bro them to make the left look cool to their audience.
Im just trying to advocate for cutting losses where they exist.
this is blatantly untrue unless you mean it in a hegemonic and not aesthetic way. If you DO mean it in an aesthetic way than what do you think transmasc people are supposed to do? Die?
We aren’t trying to get oppressors to see our humanity, we’re trying to reclaim people who are optimally already being forcibly oppressed by a socialist state to prevent them from hurting people. We aren’t asking kindly, we’re re-educating. They will learn or they won’t… with the consequences that follow