A new COVID vaccine is due out next month, but health experts and analysts say it is likely to be coolly received even as hospitalizations from "Eris", a variant of the Omicron form of the coronavirus, rise around the country.
I’m of the opinion that COVID is no longer news worthy beyond the minority it impacts. No different to the flu or various other low risk (to the vast majority) common community transmitted illnesses.
It just is now. We don’t get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine, so I don’t see the point for COVID.
Edit: some good discussion in the responses to this, and also some utterly dog shit ad hominem and trying to put words in my mouth because they didn’t actually read my comment properly.
It’s not totally random. I’ve noticed it affects self-centered and narcissistic people more frequently, almost like it’s one more justification to be a perpetual victim.
You know what’s wild? My alzheimer’s patients almost always have the most healthy bodies and rarely complain about pain. They’re not overweight. They don’t get CHF. They pass through COVID and other illnesses with mild symptoms.
Your simplified strawman contains a seed of truth.
The original strain, yes. The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it. It’s become a minor cold to the vast majority of the human population.
You can’t just say some bullshit then post a link and think it backs up what you’ve said. That paper explores the genetic predisposition to COVID susceptibility and not:
The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it.
Is there like one sentence in that paper you’ve latched onto that you think justifies your bad take?
I don’t think you read enough of the report. It goes into showing those genetic markers of that patents of covid. That means that those groups are who should be far more careful than groups without those genetics.
1.1 million Americans died of Covid, 6.8 million world wide. Today there are still around 300 Americans dying a day of the virus, 90% of those are 65+ in age or older. The number one factor in covid deaths today is being unvaccinated or having other factors that cause covid to be more lethal.
For the majority of the human population this virus poses no issues.
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023. That is why people are no longer focused on it and have moved on.
The bulk of “unintentional accidents” are motor vehicle fatalities, which are actually extremely significant in America. Though I don’t really want to get into whether or not the blood price of not giving a shit about the ongoing pandemic is a bargain, because that seems to be morally reprehensible in any event.
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023
Then you post:
Unintentional Fall deaths: 44,686
Which most certainly includes “Slipping on a wet floor” but is like one quarter the number of COVID deaths you yourself just posted!
You’re obviously upset about COVID and whatever impact it had on your life but posting bullshit just makes you look like an idiot. At least read the things you post, and maybe also try not to completely contradict yourself sentence to sentence.
Long covid symptoms are affecting 6% of the entire US population - 1 in 4 who caught covid. One estimate says the cost of long covid to the US economy might be as high as $3.7 trillion.
Just because you don’t necessarily die to it any more doesn’t mean it “poses no issues”.
Only if the 94% are now completely immune to long covid and wouldn’t suffer from it if they do get covid in the future. If that’s the case, then the risks really are only the tiny chance of dying to it, usually requiring being immunocompromised or unvaccinated. Otherwise there is also always the additional, orders of magnitude higher risk that you get long covid, and with that comes the risk that you might get stuck to your bed not being able to do anything for over a year for example.
Using the numbers from your other comment, for those 45000 deaths by motor vehicle accidents you also have the over 2 million injuries and disabilities that didn’t kill anyone, some of them permanent and debilitating. The risk of death is only one number among many.
COVID is still a pretty new thing. The whole shit storm was only 3 years ago. Flu has been around for fkn ages now, so it’s just a common thing. Where we can predict mutations and how they’ll effect people and spread. So it’s not really a concern, it’s just get your flu jab this year.
Whereas we’re still researching COVID and learning about it. The mutations are different with different effects.
Until it hits normality like flu, and predictability like flu, it’s good to keep people in the know.
I’m thankful it’s still being reported about. As someone with a disability that weakens my immune system, I’m glad to see new vaccines or research into it. I got Omicron, thankfully I’d been vaccinated, cause even with the vaccine it sucked for me. And there was some weird AF symptoms, like the air just smelled like cheese, that one really threw me off. But had I not been vaccinated, who knows just how bad it would have gotten.
And then there’s long COVID, we don’t get long flu. COVID had an effect on my disability and I’ve felt worse since getting it.
So it’s not just as easy as saying but the flu. They’re two different things with different effects and predictability levels and research done into them. So instead of complaining that there’s still stuff being written about it, be thankful it’s being taken seriously so it can eventually just be a background thing that’s akin to flu.
Well, coronaviruses are not new as a whole, lots of things fall under that class, but this particular one and the offshoots are just particularly troublesome. More problematic than the virus itself though is the social shit it stirred up where you have a certain segment that seem intent on actively trying to spread it to others, or at least being completly indifferent to it just to say and claim how tough and right they are about it. Stop coughing and sneezing on people all, it wasn’t acceptable before this covid, still not now.
I mean I still see the flu in the news when cases rise. Just because it’s happened before doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be reported on. It’s easy enough to ignore if you don’t care about it.
Hey look, it’s one of those “This doesn’t affect me, so why should I give a shit?” types! With enough training, they evolve into “Why didn’t anyone warn me??!?” types.
We do; I see them every year. Whether I’m travelling or just trying not to be sick (which costs me money since I don’t get paid sick leave), knowing what is “out there” is pretty useful information. By the time flu vaccines start rolling out there’s usually a round of articles on what the tri/quadvalent covers and the severity anticipated based on worldwide transmissions.
I’m of the opinion that COVID is no longer news worthy beyond the minority it impacts. No different to the flu or various other low risk (to the vast majority) common community transmitted illnesses. It just is now. We don’t get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine, so I don’t see the point for COVID.
Edit: some good discussion in the responses to this, and also some utterly dog shit ad hominem and trying to put words in my mouth because they didn’t actually read my comment properly.
The covids have unexpected health consequences that are way beyond the scope of the flu, including heart conditions, and chronic respiratory problems.
Yeah, long COVID seems to hit people randomly, and it seems even vaccination status doesn’t make a huge difference.
And before you know it you’ve spent a year in bedcare.
It seems that way if you don’t know anything, yes.
It’s not totally random. I’ve noticed it affects self-centered and narcissistic people more frequently, almost like it’s one more justification to be a perpetual victim.
Didn’t think I’d see the “disabled people are just looking for attention” card being played on Lemmy but here we are.
Reddit was THE place to be if you were a South Park Libertarian. So it stands to reason that a lot of the chuds will follow the exodus
I read it as anti-vaxxers, COVID conspiracy idiots, and maybe conservatives in general, not disabled people.
You know what’s wild? My alzheimer’s patients almost always have the most healthy bodies and rarely complain about pain. They’re not overweight. They don’t get CHF. They pass through COVID and other illnesses with mild symptoms.
Your simplified strawman contains a seed of truth.
Ah yes. Your tiny sample size.
From a disabled person. Fuck off. COVID sucked and continues to affect me.
You don’t know my sample size. I promise it’s much bigger than your twitter samples.
Oh, you promise!!? Such a solid argument…
Twitter. The heck makes you think I use Twitter. 😹 Try again. Asshole.
“I only hear about things from people who talk about things”
It’s true that the narcissists love to post about their long COVID too. It’s like being a celebrity.
The original strain, yes. The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it. It’s become a minor cold to the vast majority of the human population.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41431-022-01141-7
Did you read the article you posted? I read the overview and intro and really didn’t seem to support your statement.
They say the same thing for every variant, but of the 300 deaths a day 90% are 65 and older. It’s on par with the flu now.
Did you post the wrong link?
You can’t just say some bullshit then post a link and think it backs up what you’ve said. That paper explores the genetic predisposition to COVID susceptibility and not:
Is there like one sentence in that paper you’ve latched onto that you think justifies your bad take?
I don’t think you read enough of the report. It goes into showing those genetic markers of that patents of covid. That means that those groups are who should be far more careful than groups without those genetics.
“Some of you may die, but that’s a risk I’m willing to take” – @fluke@lemmy.world
With the ability to leap that far you should consider the Olympics.
1.1 million Americans died of Covid, 6.8 million world wide. Today there are still around 300 Americans dying a day of the virus, 90% of those are 65+ in age or older. The number one factor in covid deaths today is being unvaccinated or having other factors that cause covid to be more lethal.
For the majority of the human population this virus poses no issues.
Being the 4th leading cause of death in 2022 is far from “posing no issues”
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023. That is why people are no longer focused on it and have moved on.
The bulk of “unintentional accidents” are motor vehicle fatalities, which are actually extremely significant in America. Though I don’t really want to get into whether or not the blood price of not giving a shit about the ongoing pandemic is a bargain, because that seems to be morally reprehensible in any event.
Unintentional Motor vehicle accidents: 45,404
Unintentional Fall deaths: 44,686
Unintentional Poison deaths: 102,001
First you post:
Then you post:
Which most certainly includes “Slipping on a wet floor” but is like one quarter the number of COVID deaths you yourself just posted!
You’re obviously upset about COVID and whatever impact it had on your life but posting bullshit just makes you look like an idiot. At least read the things you post, and maybe also try not to completely contradict yourself sentence to sentence.
Showing what unintentional means, falls are a large part of it. Cherry-pick all you like, it doesn’t change the subject.
Long covid symptoms are affecting 6% of the entire US population - 1 in 4 who caught covid. One estimate says the cost of long covid to the US economy might be as high as $3.7 trillion.
Just because you don’t necessarily die to it any more doesn’t mean it “poses no issues”.
I don’t think anyone is saying it doesn’t pose an issue with 6%, they are saying it does pose and issue for the other 94%.
Only if the 94% are now completely immune to long covid and wouldn’t suffer from it if they do get covid in the future. If that’s the case, then the risks really are only the tiny chance of dying to it, usually requiring being immunocompromised or unvaccinated. Otherwise there is also always the additional, orders of magnitude higher risk that you get long covid, and with that comes the risk that you might get stuck to your bed not being able to do anything for over a year for example.
Using the numbers from your other comment, for those 45000 deaths by motor vehicle accidents you also have the over 2 million injuries and disabilities that didn’t kill anyone, some of them permanent and debilitating. The risk of death is only one number among many.
COVID is still a pretty new thing. The whole shit storm was only 3 years ago. Flu has been around for fkn ages now, so it’s just a common thing. Where we can predict mutations and how they’ll effect people and spread. So it’s not really a concern, it’s just get your flu jab this year.
Whereas we’re still researching COVID and learning about it. The mutations are different with different effects.
Until it hits normality like flu, and predictability like flu, it’s good to keep people in the know.
I’m thankful it’s still being reported about. As someone with a disability that weakens my immune system, I’m glad to see new vaccines or research into it. I got Omicron, thankfully I’d been vaccinated, cause even with the vaccine it sucked for me. And there was some weird AF symptoms, like the air just smelled like cheese, that one really threw me off. But had I not been vaccinated, who knows just how bad it would have gotten.
And then there’s long COVID, we don’t get long flu. COVID had an effect on my disability and I’ve felt worse since getting it.
So it’s not just as easy as saying but the flu. They’re two different things with different effects and predictability levels and research done into them. So instead of complaining that there’s still stuff being written about it, be thankful it’s being taken seriously so it can eventually just be a background thing that’s akin to flu.
Well, coronaviruses are not new as a whole, lots of things fall under that class, but this particular one and the offshoots are just particularly troublesome. More problematic than the virus itself though is the social shit it stirred up where you have a certain segment that seem intent on actively trying to spread it to others, or at least being completly indifferent to it just to say and claim how tough and right they are about it. Stop coughing and sneezing on people all, it wasn’t acceptable before this covid, still not now.
I mean I still see the flu in the news when cases rise. Just because it’s happened before doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be reported on. It’s easy enough to ignore if you don’t care about it.
Hey look, it’s one of those “This doesn’t affect me, so why should I give a shit?” types! With enough training, they evolve into “Why didn’t anyone warn me??!?” types.
You’re an idiot. A neighbor down the road just died of it last week. 45 years old with a 6 year old little girl. Fuck you.
we should. you should be made aware of new things that can affect your health and well-being. we would all do better if we were informed.
We do; I see them every year. Whether I’m travelling or just trying not to be sick (which costs me money since I don’t get paid sick leave), knowing what is “out there” is pretty useful information. By the time flu vaccines start rolling out there’s usually a round of articles on what the tri/quadvalent covers and the severity anticipated based on worldwide transmissions.
reagebaiters get a block
no one cares