• @myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website
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    11 months ago

    The Jetbrains suite of IDE’s. Particularly Jetbrains Rider. The platform ~~they are all ~~ many of them are built on is open source though, and you can get free licenses for all of their products if you are using them to develop open source software!

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      511 months ago

      DataGrip is the one JetBrains IDE I can’t work without and continue to pay for. I’d love to find a pure OSS alternative, but there’s nothing else like it.

    • @AdmiralShat@programming.dev
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      311 months ago

      It’s fucking open source??? Does that me we can build from source to have it for free?

      I have the last version you can use free forever (and I’m the reason they fixed it, by the way)

      • @myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website
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        311 months ago

        The underlying intelliJ platform is, not the entire IDE. I did edit the post though, as I realized not all of them are built on that platform.

        If you are working on open source, you can still grab free licenses. You just have to renew them each year (completely free, just requires proof of FOSS contribution)

        • Pixel
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          211 months ago

          are there any good open source alternatives for VSCode for people that don’t want to learn emacs/vim? I’ve been looking for a good code editor to replace it but I haven’t been impressed elsewhere

          • @benzmacx16v@discuss.tchncs.de
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            VSCode is open (MIT) but it is packaged by MS to include some tracking/telemetry and they are distributed under a non-free license.

            You can use VSCodium for a telemetry free and MIT licensed binary or you are free to build the source where the default config is no telemetry and MIT license.

          • stove
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            111 months ago

            There is always Eclipse IDE. It’s not as polished as Jetbrain’s apps for sure but it’s still very capable. It’s published under the Eclipse Public License. I think the language server code that’s used in VSCode is from Eclipse, it can be used for developing many languages and there are lots of plugins and other add-ons to enhance the experience.

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          But to be fair, the plugin capabilities for VS code are incredible. Of course its a lot more work but you can pretty much replicate the VS experience

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            911 months ago

            Refactoring and code cleanup utilities in Rider are exceptional right now. And that’s not small. It’s massive in value.

            Don’t get me wrong, I want codium to have this, but the extensions that compare, especially for .net, are not in the same league.

                • coehl
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                  211 months ago

                  Yeah. My work machine is Windows and I haven’t even installed vs. Rider is just superior for the vast majority of .net work.

                  Msft needs to realize that they no longer own the best ide for their stack and do something to improve the .net vs code experience. That recent c# plugin needs a lot more power.

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          511 months ago

          That’s a bit of a silly statement. Once you’ve installed a few extensions for your language (a language server and linting at minimum), it is effectively an IDE with a reasonably powerful debugger included. Just because it’s modular and not “batteries included” doesn’t make it incomparable.

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              11 months ago

              Yes, I’ve made heavy use of PyCharm, IntelliJ and Datagrip and I’m a huge fan of them all.

          • snowe
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            111 months ago

            Microsoft straight up says it’s not an IDE.

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              Sure. But I didn’t say it was either. I only pointed out that it’s silly to say “there’s no comparison”, when most functionality is easily achievable on both. And depending on language, it’s not even difficult.

              Edit: In fairness, I did say “it’s effectively an IDE”, but I stand by the point that after a few extensions - what is the difference? If I can debug, refactor, and and get complete intellisense (including finding declarations etc), I’m doing more or less everything I would in a dedicated IDE.

              Edit 2: I feel I’ve gone to far the other way. I have used am am aware of some of the capabilities that a fill fledged IDE has over something like VSCode. Especially for languages like those of the C-family. But I do take issue with implying they’re not comparable. For many usecases and languages, they’re totally comparable.