(unpaywalled version on archive.today: https://archive.ph/03cwZ)
Interesting figure that comes out of the article: 87% of US teens prefer iPhones. Also the explanations given aren’t quite surprising, I guess it’s mostly because of iMessage. Teens will feel like outcasts if they get an Android phone while their friends still use iMessage because of the green bubbles.
It’s actually hilarious how we allowed consumerism to take us this far and that we have now peer pressure over smartphones.
“You’re telling me in 2023, you still have a ’Droid? […] You gotta be at least 50 years old.”
ouch 😔
My entire life I’ve been reading news that only iPhones are cool, yet my social circles don’t care and have never said anything like this. I feel like this is a ‘Hello fellow kids’ type of investigative journalism, that is a secret apple ad.
I’m also convinced these are really just paid for by Apple ads. I’ve never seen anyone care about such a thing.
Most tech “news” is paid by the subject of the said news.
Who the fuck calls Android devices “'Droids” unironically? This couldn’t have been real teenagers. Not ones from the past decade at the very least.
I have, in my dating life, gotten lightening charging cables to have around the house.
It’s never fun to have someone ask you for a charger, you saying “Sure, use the fast charger right there”, and not have the lightening cable for their phone. But it’s also a catch-22, if you DO have the cable they need then its “Why do you have this cable, you don’t have a iphone”.
“Why do you have this cable, you don’t have a iphone”
It’s like having some spare toothbrushes and women’s hygiene stuff just in case someone stays over. You’ll score points for being thoughtful, but on the other hand they’ll be like: waaait a minute …
Honestly, I have found teens using iOS to be more tech illiterate. Like they dont know about Piracy, Ad-blockers and stuff. Crazily believe that apple IS privacy friendly and shit like that.
This literally translates how dumb kids become by just abstracting everything from them, having little to no digital literacy, having little to no customisation, hands on. Fuck you apple, Fuck you iToddlers
Idk, these seem to be first world country problems
In rapidly and non rapidly developing countries, we have brands like realmeme(realme), tecnologically braindead(tecno) and xiaomeme(xiaomi) take over
iPhones are alright but people here like to be conservative with their money. Ironically they look at good specs since mobile gaming is all the rage here
I personally daily drive a oneplus one, to spite people like the ones mentioned in the post
Teenagers are well known for their experience and insight
Phones have gotten to the point now where switching to an iPhone would be an inconvenience since I’m somewhat bought into the android ecosystem, but other than that, I genuinely wouldn’t care that much. It’s amazing how little there is between them now.
Not if you want a foldable.
@AlmightySnoo
I see this from another angle. The 99% average people using stuff like this and judging people based on the color of a txt bubble simply are not worth hanging with. I mean the whole reason I use Lemmy and mastodon and not the platforms that the 99% use is for this reason. Let your honest choices filter the crap from your life.Holy fuck, kids are cringe. I hate this blue bubble elitism so much. Glad it’s not a really a thing in Europe.
To be fair I am not a “kid”, but I have friends from highschool I still meet from time to time. And everybody used to have an android phone, now I am the only one left. A lot of them are company phones, but tbf I barely know anybody who doesn’t use an iPhone. And ykw, I get it. I get my phones second hand for the price of 10 kebabs, and fix them when needed, run linageOS, fuck around with magisk when needed and so on. But actually if you don’t want to do that, android phones are a fucking awful deal. They are no cheaper than an iphone, they are no more expandable, no easier to repair, come with no more accessories, and these days with safetynet and hardware based trusted boot no more open and moddable. on the other hand get way worse software support, get way shorter support, the servicing is usually way less streamlined, even the best are built worse, and they have little support for apple accessories, which are best in class especially the airpods pro being the biggest dealbreaker of the lot. Honestly a new android phone, would be a hard fucking sell for me as well.
That’s more or less true, counterpoint: there’s the Fairphone.
Regardless of that, for the purposes of the average person, any phone, iOS or Android from even 10 years ago is more than serviceable, while for those who game on their phone, maybe 2/3 years old phones are still holding up. The innovations in the space have been really flattening out for some time, so I’d say it doesn’t make much of a difference, because the average person doesn’t care about the newest OS versions for its up to date security, maybe for the features, but there hasn’t been something very groundbreaking recently IMO.(Still, we should be mad at Google for allowing Android to be the ever out of date platform, but this was more a perspective of what the normal users need)
Well yeah the fairphone exists, but it is CATASTROPHICALLY expensive, (not that well made), and has a relatively old midrange chipset. And no headphone jack. I think 1 of these three would make it a very appealing product, 2 would make it worth considering, all three simply means, it isn’t good enough, even in a vacume. Sorry. And I really like the idea.
579€ for a phone that should potentially last you a decade or more doesn’t seem that expensive to me, chipset and jack are a pity though, I have to agree
I mean, let’s be real here. That decade is very theoretical. These midrange chipsets are kinda slow from the start. High end phones with absoulutely top of the line chipsets, with high powerlimits last a decade.
Edit: Also the parts are pretty expensive to be honest, and the price of the case is a fucking ripoff. 30 Euros for a case that isn’t even nice is just taking the piss.
Also 579 is for the entry version with only 6 gigabytes of ram, which is the amount that my note 8 had in 2018. You need to pay 649 for the 8 gig one, and if you want to keep the phone, you really want the 8gig one.
Edit2: Also you need to buy the more expensive 8/256 one, for the specled green back cover, which again is just taking the fucking piss. Not the mention the self admittedly chinese bought unrepairable TWS they were peddaling with it. IK IK you got it for free for a short while. Now however you have to pay for it.
Yeah, you’re right honestly, it’s not the best, but I do hope they improve and become more popular in the future.
Wishful thinking here, but if it picks up more, the prices might also drop a little alongside that
It’s US only so it doesn’t matter to the rest of the world. I don’t understand how it became like that there.
“people who don’t have to pay for things and whose only economic system is peer pressure prefer the high end phones their friends use.”
There’s a hidden cost to using a phone created by an advertising company to track you, not to sell hardware. I’d rather just pay more for the phone than be subjected to more targeting by the predatory capitalists and oligarchs ruining technology.
yes, 16 year olds are famous for their long-term planning.
you know who has nothing to lose from a privacy perspective? a teenager whose life is constantly monitored anyway. Why would a teenager care about apple reading their messages when there are much nearer semi-existential threats like mom&dad reading your messages?
The idea that an iPhone is more secure or private is a farce you’ve been sold. It’s true that Google makes more money off of tracking behavior and selling ads but it’s absolutely laughable to believe Apple doesn’t do that also. They just focus their efforts more on entrapping you in an ecosystem where you don’t feel even able capable of giving another tech company money besides them. Need proof, look at the fact that lawmakers had to force them to use USBC. The excuse they gave for not doing it was flimsy af. They obviously were looking to keep profiting from their shitty lightning cables. Never once did the fact that it’s outlandishly inconvenient to need a different cable than your friends with Androids for charging your phone ever register as a factor for apple. Proprietary and overpriced. That’s the entire business model.
As someone with an android, and someone who worked in digital forensics, iPhones absolutely are more secure. It’s way harder to break into an iPhone.
Hmm, I’ve also heard the opposite kind of – at least from an exploit patching perspective a lot of people claim Google fixes the security holes much quicker. But admittedly I’m sure you know a lot more about this than I. I’m relying on secondhand information
google for all its faults seems much more open about security. Apple is a marketing company that tangentially makes hardware. Its good hardware, but its still tangential.
The problem with that is you’re bunching so many phones together based on their OS when their security is dependent on more than that. I’ll admit I’m unaware of the current situation but Pixels for example have been more secure than the iPhone in the past and are still considered secure in general, no idea about how they compare to an iPhone.
Where I used to work, we had a massive digital library of android phones with confirmed exploits. They went up to quite recent phones and OS versions. The android team wasn’t particularly big because there wasn’t a major need for manpower to keep up. The iPhone team was highly specialized and had their work cut out for them. I wasn’t on either team (Windows and sort-of OS X) but I fell into their meetings and wikis quite often due to platform overlaps.
And the latest and greatest wasn’t necessarily what was getting attention anyway. Plenty of people worldwide use old phones
Ah yes, news so US centric I can’t even understand what’s the point being made in the article, that’s what I didn’t miss from reddit.
Status symbol VS smartphone, a phone isn’t smart if you can’t sideload apps or flash a custom rom.
This news just in: teenagers can be arseholes to each other.
Back in my day, it was over the brand of sneakers or jeans that you wore.
I wonder what the numbers are for the rest of the world. it seems to me that Androids are much more popular at the far reaches of the EU e.g.
I really question this supposed study by an advertisement company
what the fuck is that username
