All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

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    2 years ago

    Thank fucking god for the EU, for fighting for global digital rights where nobody else does.

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    2 years ago

    Apple in 2027: This is not a battery, it’s a…umm … Ultra High Density Low Current Super Capacitor.

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    2 years ago

    Will literally anyone in the EU help me immigrate? ill do anything to get out of Murica.

    • shinjiikarus@mylem.eu
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      2 years ago

      This. People read this and think about the removable batteries of Nokia bricks and plastic hardshells, but this would really hamper with IP68 rating. It probably just means the users must be able to replace the battery themselves, instead of artificially locking it down with DRM. And maybe provide some documentation. Otherwise phones would become so much worse, than they have been for more than a decade.

      • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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        2 years ago

        Louis was saying ‘Does everyone have collective amnesia?? We had IP68 phones with removable batteries already!’

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          2 years ago

          I only remember the Samsung rugged ones, which do not look great. Some compromise will be needed to get removable batteries into phones. Compromises the buyer of a gold iPhone Pro Max to flex their wealth won’t appreciate. Not DRMing batteries and giving users access to documentation and tools for replacing the battery requires almost no compromise from no one (except a tiny dent in Apple‘s balance sheet, which they will recover from, I’m sure).

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    The fact that some of the gen Z crowd think it will be horrible have forgotten that it was much easier to carry 2 batteries and swap them out vs carrying a charger and cable with you everywhere. Pop in the new battery, power it on and carry on with you now full battery phone. Being tethered to a wall so you can have 10% from 20 minutes of charging is crazy.

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      2 years ago

      The main reason I’m thinking of upgrading my mid-range phone now is the battery is on its last legs.

      In fairness it’s lasted 6 years, which is two years more than my Nexus 4 got. Pokemon Go eventually killed that.

      I don’t know when we all just collectively accepted that batteries should last one day and not a second more. Sure, it’s doing more than a Nokia 3310 ever did, but sometimes you really do need it to last more than that, like when travelling.

  • Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 years ago

    It’s NOT just phones.

    It’s EVERYTHING with a battery. Including cars, laptops, e-bikes, video game controllers, headphones etc. (im not even sure if there are exceptions, such as tiny tiny “airpod” like things… ?)

    And they must be (with a few exceptions) replacable by a “layman”, without the use of special tools - which means no heat pads, to soften up glue etc etc. (and for gods sake, i hope it also means apple can’t hardwareID lock a battery)

    an exception mentioned in the EU document about the law says, high power batteries for example in an electric car, must be done by a profesional - but of course it still has to be “replacable” and not… tear the whole car apart and rebuild it using new batteries.

    replacable batteries in headphones, bluetooth mice, laptops etc, is gonna be awesome.

    and lets not forget, they have to recycle the old ones - and produce new batteries using recycled materials.

    in fact, i will try to hold on replacing my current (2 year old) phone, and wait to get one before 2027. Usually the battery turns to shit in 3ish years.

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    2 years ago

    Pesky EU throwing their weight around giving consumers more rights! --Brexiteer logic

    Oh well hopefully we’ll (UK) still benefit from it. Easier to design one phone than “EU” and “Rest of world” versions after all.

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    When Apple want to, they can design amazing things. So I look forward to see if they come up with a clever Apple-like way to do this. Or maybe they just make it easier to remove the back.

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    2 years ago

    I remember when apple put out a software update to intentionally throttle the phone’s processor, to save charge on it’s irreplacable battery. I hope this prevents companies doing this sort of shit as well.

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    2 years ago

    You can already replace your own iPhone battery without any technical expertise. I hope the law is more specific than that, because there are many things OEMs can do to comply and still make it a giant pain in the ass to do.

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    I tried Ctrl+F searching to see whether anyone here had pasted the link to the law, and didn’t find anything, so I went to Presearch and found this, which appears to be the official European Union log for it, and has attached PDFs at the end with what seem to be the nitty-gritty for further reading…

    https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/07/10/council-adopts-new-regulation-on-batteries-and-waste-batteries/

    If I’ve found an errant page that just looks official, please link something better for those looking for the legalese

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    2 years ago

    Honestly good. Usb C is so good.

    I have a couple of 100w chargers around the house, no messing about can charge nearly everything at full speed.

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    2 years ago

    Coming soon from Apple. Screws that require a 4D tesseract shaped screwdriver to undo.

    But if you can undo them, feel free to change the battery.

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      2 years ago

      The EU defines user replaceable as you can remove the batteries with common tools. Common tools is defined as a Phillips or flathead screwdriver. So even Nintendo and their stupid try-force screw thing won’t be acceptable.

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        If that’s really the definition, it’s an awful definition and exactly why we shouldn’t regulate stuff like this. Torx are objectively better than Philips or flathead in every possible way.