Tipping ‘nudges’ are now popping up on DoorDash. If you don’t leave a gratuity, you’ll hear about it.::DoorDash is the latest delivery service to nudge customers who don’t tip. It shows how intrusive tip requests are, and how important tips are to gig workers.

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        You are right, and it frustrates me.

        I could never be in a job where I didn’t know I was going to have a consistent check. I work the same hours, let’s say, and because I didn’t get enough tips one week, I’m now behind on something or another. I truly think people are crazy to not want steady income.

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    It bothers you even when you do tip. I always just tip 20% when I pay, before any service has happened, but I still get like 6 texts after my order has arrived asking me to “rate and tip!” “Don’t forget to tip your driver!!” “HEY FUCKER!! GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY!!” Then at some point “Your driver says: Thanks for the tip! Don’t forget to rate your order from Jack in the Box!” I’m not going to fucking rate my food from Jack in the Box. It’s deep fried shame, it’s delicious and I don’t want to talk about it. Leave me alone please, it’s the middle of the night and I’m full of jalapeno poppers and onion rings and shame.

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      I don’t understand tipping delivery drivers percentage of the goods. If they aren’t involved in the restaurant making the food, why should I tip percentage of the tab. Should really be based on distance and amount of stuff delivered. I’ve started just opting to punch in dollar amounts that feel right to me.

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        2 years ago

        I think it comes from the thinking that ordering more expensive food means you must have higher income to afford that, so you can also afford a higher tip.

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      I have traditionally been a good tipper. Often others will mention it.

      But the recent changes have me turned into a mister pink in a lot of cases.

      Anything take out or not full service I just hit no now. Also the round up for some random cause, I found companies only have to donate like 10% of those to stay in the clear.

      Also in the few instances I’m getting take out type shit like pizza and hit “no” and they made a comment. I no longer go there.

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        2 years ago

        I stick with the tipping habits I grew up with.

        • If I’m getting table service at a restaurant, I tip the waitstaff.

        • If I’m getting food delivered, I tip the delivery person.

        • I tip taxi drivers.

        • I tip bartenders. I’m honestly not sure how to tip bartenders these days though, because it used to be “$1 per drink”, which seemed quite generous when drinks were less than $5. Now a single drink might be $12. Am I really supposed to tip 20% on that?

        If I’m walking up to a counter and getting takeout or fast food, I’m not tipping. That’s nutty. Nobody would even consider that if they didn’t use these customer-facing tablets everywhere nowadays.

        Sometimes I’ll toss a buck in the tip jar at my favorite coffee shop or pizzeria, but it’s not a percentage thing.

        I’ve always known old people to be shitty tippers. Maybe I’m on my way to becoming one of them now, failing to keep up with social norms. But I really don’t think this is the norm, and I don’t want it to become the norm.

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          Yeah I’m mostly at the same. But coffee shops and pizza shacks etc have gotten to be the worst on the tipping thing, and being vocal about it.

          I guess I’m just old now. But even at restaurants we have stopped going in the last year because the level of dgaf is through the roof and the service is shit, burgers are 17 bucks and it’s just not enjoyable. One of our favorite pizza places is like that. Get the waiter that is AirPods in, asking you to repeat your order, fucking up the order, forgetting shit or even to fire an entire part of the parties order, and the ordeal taking 2 hours.

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            I worked at a coffee shop and 40% of my wage was tips. I wouldn’t be able to afford to live otherwkse. Please tip your barista.

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          Often I’ll sit at the bar and eat. So I tip 20%.

          Even if I’m just drinking I’ll tip 20%. It use to be a dollar a drink but I’m not going to fret over the 5p cents more

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          I just stopped eating out. It’s gotten ridiculous, it’s cheaper and healthier to just cook yourself

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      I tip 10% for delivery. They’re just dropping my food off. Sit in dining 20% for average service.

      The tipping culture has become insane. Historically it was a dollar or two for delivery.

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    • Ban tipping as a substitute for min wage.
    • Ban tipping companies,
    • Allow tipping people.

    Until then, tip people with cash.

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    We get asked for tips here in Australia where we have a minimum wage and no tipping culture - it’s rubbish because we don’t need to subsidise people’s income at all, but the app doesn’t differentiate countries customs it seems. Uber’s apps are the same always asking for tips despite minimum wage….

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      You’re tipping the driver and not the restaurant. The driver is making gig pay and not minimum wage.

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        The expectation though in Australia is that the employer (Uber etc) is paying fair compensation for the services provided so a tip is not necessary.

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        Imagine wanting a tip for doing the bare minimum at your job. I tip mine because I always leave instructions (no doorbell kinda thing). But guess what, you don’t follow simple instructions, you don’t get a tip. Door dash is already paying you to deliver the food, you want me to also pay? If door dash wants people to continue delivering food, it’s got to be worth it for those people. If other Americans are stupid enough to keep perpetuating this well then I guess we deserve whatever’s coming.

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          Imagine wanting a tip for doing the bare minimum at your job.

          I guess gas comes free where you’re from.

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            I know what you’ve s saying, but as someone who has done that kind of work, an optional payment shouldn’t be required to cover something essential for the job. Gas to make the delivery should be covered by whatever payment they will already receive from the delivery. The tip should be something that is nice for the driver to get, and the company that uses their labor should pay them what is required to do that labor.

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              You put it in a much better way really now that I really think about it. Thanks

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    I’ve never used GrubHub, DoorDash, or any of those meal delivery services. I know I’m in the minority here, but I just don’t trust people to not mess with my food in between the store and my house.

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        It’s born from the same idea that people will pass out Halloween candy with blades in it. Which is a thing that is everyone “knows” about but has never actually been reported to happen.

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    Tips help the company a lot more than the worker. If everyone decides to just be an asshole for a while and stop tipping, the workers being exploited will quit, and companies will be forced to pay actual living wages to attract/retain workers.

    But that’s not going to happen because the social pressure of tipping is just too strong… and I say that as someone who is part of the problem by always leaving a tip :/

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    I killed all delivery nonsense a while ago. It was like 4 fees plus a demand for a tip on top of inflated prices; go to the restaurant and pay $15 or pay DoorDash $35 for the same shit? Fuck that, I’ll drive and pick my own damn food up.

    And bonus, if half of it gets eaten in the car - I mean “wasn’t given to me by the restaurant”, sorry - at least I’m the one who ate the damn thing.

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      Except now you’re supposed to tip on pickup orders. I am feeling so much tripping fatigue.

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      I used one of those shit delivery services twice. First time they completed fucked my order and I had to drive to the restaurant to get it fixed. Second time the food literally never arrived and I called the restaurant who said it was picked up. Took me an hour of playing phone tag with a bunch of super unhelpful morons and then I still had to go over from a completely different restaurant to get food.

      Never again.

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    I’ve never used one of the delivery services, I doubt I ever will. I haven’t been to a restaurant or a movie theater since the troubles, I don’t see myself going back, neither have anything to offer me I can’t have better at home.

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    I view tipping as a form of hostage payment, I’ll tip you today so you don’t mess with my food tomorrow. My highschool time showed me how vulnerable people’s food was to the whims of teenagers.

    When a app nudges for tipping I just think they haven’t set the right price for the service.

    Luckily I live in a place without a tip culture now, so relaxing to know how much things actually cost.

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    If you don’t want to tip your driver then don’t use door dash. Just because tipping sucks does not entitle you to using other people to who rely on tips to make a living. It’s how the system works now so either write to Congress or stfu and stop using these services. It’s not that hard. The constant whining on this topic is incredibly annoying and the people who rely on tips are never considered by redditor types.

    There is no magical solution to this problem where you don’t end up paying more money for your food, whether it’s a living wage or something else. And even the “living wage” people propose would almost certainly be a pay cut for most servers/drivers. So don’t try to pretend you’re helping anyone other yourself with it.