Julia Evans (@bork@jvns.ca) writes about her experience of running and using a single-person Mastodon server. The post also links to other people’s experiences in-between.

  • pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org
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    2 years ago

    Currently self-hosting my own mastodon server and honestly the setup wasn’t too bad (using docker)… much more straight-forward than I feared.

    My main concerns, which Julia mentions, is that if you have a small instance, you are very much an island as the way federation work is not what you expect. For instance, as Julia notes, if you view a new person’s profile on your own instance, it will look empty (as if they haven’t posted anything). Lemmy also has this issue if you view a community you have not subscribed to yet for the first time.

    Likewise, my “#explore” tab is basically always empty and discovering new tags or people is difficult if you are just looking on your own instance (I basically have to go to Fossotodon or another instance to find new things and then import them into my own instance). I’ve recently learned that you have to have a third party application basically seed your instance with posts… again, similar to the bot tricks use for seeding Lemmy with communities.

    Overall, I think discovery is a big pain point for the fediverse and ActivityPub. It’s great that we can have our own instances and control our own small communities, but it seems that we are lacking the ability to really connect across instances and form experiences that really bridge across multiple communities.

    • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      Discoverability is something that mastodon as a platform doesn’t really understand. It really needs something like lemmy’s communities, IMO, to help people find each other. I keep prattling on about how withwithout algorithms, microblogging needs to interact much more seamlessly with group-based platforms like lemmy.

      EDIT: forgot the “out” in “without”

    • JTode@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Lemmy in particular is actually reinventing usenet to a very large degree.

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    Yea I read this, and as someone that would ideally see themselves self-hosting at some point, who also knew about all of these issues already, I was surprised at how much reading about them all in one place put me off of the idea and even mastodon in general.

    For some reason their final line about sticking around mastodon because most of the Linux/tech crowd are there right now really struck as me criticising with faint praise (whether intentional or not).

    I feel like I am repeatedly reminded of how Mastodon is really an awkward middle ground for social media.

  • RxBrad@lemmings.world
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    2 years ago

    FediBuzz relays have been absolutely indispensable on my own single-user Mastodon server. Without them, following hashtags would be futile, as id only see hashtags from accounts I already follow.

    Unfortunately, Mastodon is killing FediBuzz in its next 4.2 update.

    My only other option is to relay with entire other servers, which will add tons of unwanted storage on my server – including shady stuff from the gross corners of those servers that I probably don’t want stored locally.

    It almost feels like they’re trying to push me to use a big server.

  • mesamune@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I did it for a while. Not exactly single person because my wife also wanted on. What I learned after a month or so is that it’s worth paying someone 5 a month to do it for me since there were always something small breaking ot s tiny bit of documentation not covered in the official instructions (I added to the official docs later).

    I recommend everyone do it at least once if you have the background. It teaches you a lot about the process.

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      2 years ago

      Would you recommend running another Fediverse microblogging software like Pleroma or Calckey? They can use/interact with all Mastodon features just fine. The issues you found…were they Mastodon-specific or Fediverse/ActivityPub in general?

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    seems like the main complaints are ‘im a single person who now requires multi-user resources for a multi-user piece of software’.

    isnt that kinda how it works?

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    2 years ago

    “One thing that wasn’t obvious to me is that who servers defederate / limit is sometimes hidden, so it’s hard to suss out what’s going on if you’re considering joining a server, or trying to understand why you can’t see certain posts.”

    Can lemmy users compare defederated info between servers? think it would be informative as well.

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      One reason behind it is that people are taking to defederation, simply based on whether or not you yourself defederated some third party.

      See the Threads “grab your pitchfork” posts here on Lemmy for reference… Plenty of “we need a list of people who didn’t defed Threads so we can defederate them