Aug 9, 2023
and08/09/23
literally say the same thing.They do but one informs the reader of the order of the format while the other doesn’t.
Look it’s easy, you just wait until the 13th of the month to figure out which format it is. Is 12 days really so much to ask?
I’m so excited for tomorrow
Why not do it like the Germans? 08.09.2023
Different format would avoid confusion about the order.August 9th 2023 would be 09.08.2023 in Germany though 😉
Also changing it to periods doesn’t avoid confusion about the order. Also pretty sure we fought a whole war over not being like the Germans, so…
It’s quite simple really. The order is “small to big”. You start with the smallest unit, in this case the day. Then follows the next largest unit, the month, and finally the year. Basically the same as in the top picture, but in reverse order.
The first isn’t ambiguous at all; the second is hella ambiguous.
08/09/23 literally says the 8th day of september.
That’s why I write 9 Aug ‘23
No, the second one says “Sept. 8th 2023” and that last panel is obviously British (you can tell by the teeth) /s
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Goddamn German memes invading everywhere.
DD/MM/YYYY is the best in my opinion
I agree with this because if you were to say the whole thing verbally, you generally start with the day, the month then the year.
“It is the 9th of August in the year of our Lord 2023.”
We wouldn’t in America in most cases. I’d say it’s August 9th 2023. I honestly feel like this is such a dumb argument to have because it doesn’t matter except for communication with people who use other methods. Now metric vs imperial makes way more sense to me because the metric system is just so much easier for mathematical conversions.
In the USA most people would say “august 9th”, not “the 9th of august”, which is one of the reasons mm/dd/yyyy is the standard format here
YYYY-MM-DD is better if you need to sort
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Then use DD-MM-YYYY or any other character.
Okay but if you sort by name then the file:
08-09-2023.png
is after:
04-12-2023.png
Because everything would be sort after the day number.
DD?MM?YYYY
ISO 8601 or nothing. Descending order of granularity, keep everything sorted as it should be!
My personal preference is DD-MM-AAAA, but as someone that works with lots of data from different formats and timezones… I have to agree with you…
YYYYMMDD and UTC should be the global default.
RFC 3339, because ISO is not free.
Tell me more? I can look it up but I’m curious if anybody ever got problems from using a standard like that
I’ve said it once and I will say it again:
mkdir -p 2023/{January,February,March,April,May,June,July,August,Septembet,October,November,December}
Warning: not POSIX
ew ew ew no please no :'(
09/08/2023 (I’m an American who doesn’t care what everyone in my country uses if that “custom” is nonsense…)
Im a Canadian, and unfortunetely we use both formats, with no context.
Which is why written down or typed without a format prompt I use “12 Aug 2023”
Do you use metric? :)
I use Fahrenheit just because it’s a pain to get everything set to Celsius and other Americans don’t understand it. But I use grams, kilos, millilitres, kilometres, etc. Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.
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Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.
Some proud neckbeard shit right here. “Fuck communicating effectively with people. They don’t even know I only use the metric system!”
But yeah, got em… I guess.
I see an brave! Inspire!
USA is the edgy teen after moving out of the parents house (Europe) and finally doing stuff their own way. Not because it is practical, but because they feel rebellious.
Date Formats:
Aug 9, 20239 Aug, 20238/9/2023 US9/8/2023 GB2023/8/9Correct Date Formats:
9 AUG, Juche 112 ✅
2023-08-09
*9 AUG, Duche 112✅️😉
Majority of the world uses YYYY-MM-DD. Day 1st makes no sense. If you need the month or year it should come 1st. You need to zoom into what you need not select from any number of months with the same day. That would be like putting time with seconds 1st.
9AUG2023
Can’t believe relevant xkcd hasn’t been posted.
I was unaware of this. But it uses the same logic as the British date format so I am okay with it.
That standard can go fuck itself
The correct standard is dd/mm/yyyy
Why would you have minutes inbetween there and not months?
? I do have months in the “mm”
The first and the last date format are terrible because you can confuse the day of the month with the number of the month.
I only like date formats where it’s not possible to confuse any field, like 8 Aug 2023. I minimize ambiguity.
If the date is in a file name, I make an exception using 2023-08-09 such that a string sort is equal to a date sort.
For actually displaying dates to others, I agree that spelling out the month is absolutely preferred. But if space is limited, you’re somewhat required to pick a very shortened format, and the US version is dumb, even if that’s what you should use when displaying in that locale.
But for working with dates on computers, year-month-day works great, because it’s still human readable, is naturally sortable, and makes it easier for serialization.
The first one is conventionally never year-day-month, and if anyone ever sent me a date of 2023-17-08, I would respond with, “What the hell?! Are you being evil on purpose?”
The way I see it, the US just writes it the way it’s spoken. “August 9th, 2023” vs. “the 9th of August, 2023”.
Sorry, guess I forgot about that classic American holiday, July 4th
That is indeed how many Americans say it.
That also doesn’t make a lot of sense though, does it. In my language, the day comes first. Also when spoken.
It does in real English too.
No, the US just chose this order and speaks it the same way. I don’t speak it this way, you’re just used to it (just like everyone is to the way they speak it)
Yeah, but in proper English, as spoken in England, we would say “9th of August, not August the 9th”
Just like the comment above mine wrote it
If it’s a file I want sorted by date the top is good. If I am talking about a date and spelling it out August the 9th of 2023 makes the most sense and seems natural, and if it’s a personal memo or date label on food I just use 08/09 with the zeros so I know it isn’t a fraction unless it’s frozen or shelf stable for long term storage where the year would be useful to know at which point it becomes 8/9/23
I thought everybody used different date formats based on need.
Unix time is the best format
Alright, then I guess change the way you read a clock too… My day to day use doesn’t include the year at all. Just mm/dd
Why change the way you read a clock? year/month/day hour:minute:second
You would never read a clock as minute:second:hour, which is analagous to how Americans phrase dates.
The 12-hour system is similar to this issue
Lot of people say “half passed” or “quarter 'til” and optionally include the hour.
I don’t, but some people do.
One of my biggest gripes when I worked at Walmart in the claims dept.
I would always have to double check items because some are sources from the US and use the US date format while the rest is in the normal format.
BB really needs to have what format was used or labels need to be printed for US sources pantry items.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Americans write the date the way we would say it. August 9th 2023.
Wait, you mean the last 2 are, in all fact, the same, exact, thing?
Yes.
That’s what kills me about people who rag on Americans.
We order our dates the way we say them, and we use a temperature system is a great way to describe feeling heat.
I’ve got no defense for imperial measurements beyond scooping up a cup of flour is easier than dumping it on a scale.
But people spend more energy shitting on the cultural norms of Americans than anyone else (especially Europeans) and then spend a lot of time telling us we have no culture.
Generally speaking you’re usually from 0 to 720 hours in a month: how many time in a year you have to remind people what month they are into vs. the single day?
Guy A: “Hey, what day is it?”
Guy B: “It’s Sunday, the 13th.”
Guy A: “Of…?” (gesturing to keep going)
Guy B: “Ah, right, we’re just 390 hours into August. You may have missed that.”
That’s in response to a poorly asked question.
"Hey what’s the date?
“August 13th”
9th of August, 2023