Recall won’t be available until October for Windows testers.
  • Retro_unlimited@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    Is called “Windows” because they are always looking in at you. I have been on Linux since they announced recall, and their fucking one drive kept secretly uploading my desktop files! (Kept seeing sync icons, even with all that disabled). Since then I now have my wife, uncle, dad, friends, etc all running Linux now.

      • trolololol@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Just give up on any productivity software. And any specialty software unrelated to programming. And games.

        Source: programmer that uses Linux daily.

  • quissberry@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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    6 months ago

    How this is good for Mircosoft though? It makes sense if they want to do it opt-out, but the only reason why I can think of they don’t want it to get removed at all to sell data

    • pyre@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      not until Linux bros find a way to appeal to newcomers. being curious about Linux is the worst user experience anyone will ever have about any tech related issue.

      • buttfarts@lemy.lolEnglish
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        6 months ago

        You aren’t trying to suggest that experienced Linux users are a bunch of arrogant fart-sniffing a-holes who expressly enjoy gate-keeping inexperienced users by being as condescending and unhelpful as possible?

        • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
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          6 months ago

          I tried talking about how absolutely horrendous their behaviour was recently, pointing out how completely unhinged and self-defeating their behaviour is, and someone actually literally said that this was a good thing because Linux is hard work and they should keep away people that aren’t experts.

          And first of all, if that’s right it’s an admission that linux will never succeed, and secondly I agree that’s the effect but I think that’s bad actually.

          I honestly think there must be at least some amount of psyops in the community poisoning the discourse for everyone.

            • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
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              6 months ago

              Unironically I think it must happen to some extent, and that doesn’t mean every toxic person is an op. It wouldn’t take a lot of manpower to create a toxic environment. Just hassle the devs with annoying questions, suggestions and bad “contributions” until they’re sick of everyone’s shit and start to become toxic themselves. If they’re dealing with all the noise of bad actors, they get overzealous in moderating it, and it’s hard to tell the difference between a troll who’s trying to waste your time, and an honest newbie who doesn’t know what questions to ask or what information to share, so they all get blasted to some extent, and the devs lose any interest in catering to the newbies.

              Edit: actually I remember asking a question on stackoverflow about PuTTY one time, it was answered and I moved on with my life. Then five fucking years later some dickhead shows up in the comments and says, “aw… putty… windows…” So I’m like, “Listen, I don’t care if you think I’m sad for using windows, I don’t use linux because it’s too much work” Then they start lecturing me about how linux is for experts and if I don’t know what I’m doing it’s not for me, and I’m like “Ok? Then leave me alone. This question is five years old, why are you here? Just to hassle a rando because they use windows?” Then a mod bumped the comments into a private chat and off the question page, then this person starts offering to “help” me learn Linux. I told them if I wanted help they’d be the last person I would ask, then blocked them, but the bad taste of that interaction has stayed with me for a long time and I think about it a lot whenever I want to put effort into switching myself over. Was that an op? Being a troll is easy, and it would’ve been maybe 20 minutes of work for whoever was doing it. Like, maybe that was just some kid who thought they were helping further the linux cause by going around windows-shaming people, but maybe not.

      • phoneymouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Need to pair it with a stable, easy to use distribution and some good marketing and hardware too. At the end of the day, most people don’t want to spend their weekends scouring forums to understand how to fix some OS issue with a series of terminal commands.

  • SplashJackson@lemmy.caEnglish
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    6 months ago

    I don’t get it. People riot over less. Why is there not more ire, anger, and vitriol online?

    • HC4L@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      It’s very carefully being shoved in by touching the waters and seeing how far they can go. The first few times there is outrage but after a while people get tired, miss that it is happening or simply don’t understand what it’s about. The changes aren’t that big but as a whole work towards something nobody wants. Same as with a lot of laws and / or social changes.