• General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    7 months ago

    [French media] said the investigation was focused on a lack of moderators on Telegram, and that police considered that this situation allowed criminal activity to go on undeterred on the messaging app.

    Europe defending its citizens against the tech giants, I’m sure.

    • RedditWanderer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      7 months ago

      There’s a lot of really really dark shit on telegram that’s for sure, and it’s not like signal where they are just a provider. They do have control the content

        • RedditWanderer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          7 months ago

          I don’t recall CP/gore being readily available on those platforms, it gets reported/removed pretty quickly.

          • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            7 months ago

            You’re young. It really was a thing. It never stayed up long, and they found ways to make it essentially instantaneous, but there was a time it was easy to find very unpleasant things on Facebook, whether you wanted to or not. Gore in specific was easy to run across at one point. CP, it was more offers to sell it.

            They fixed it, and it isn’t like that now, but it was a problem in the first year or two.

            • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
              1·
              7 months ago

              And there are still informal networks of Pedos and other pests operating on these platforms to this day.

            • RedditWanderer@lemmy.worldEnglish
              01·
              7 months ago

              Haha, young ? i wish. But go on making stuff up.

              So now it’s not that it’s readily available, it’s that it was in the beginning. So everyone is allowed to let CP go in the first years of their platform? Is that what youre going with. Eww

    • chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.netEnglish
      1·
      7 months ago

      Safe harbour equivalent rules should apply, no? That is, the platforms should not be held liable as long as the platform does not permit for illegal activities on the platform, offer proper reporting mechanism, and documented workflows to investigate + act against reported activity.

      It feels like a slippery slope to arrest people on grounds of suspicion (until proven otherwise) of lack of moderation.

  • abobla@lemm.eeEnglish
    2·
    7 months ago

    Why arrest him? Why not threaten to block the app in France or something like that?

    And why only arrest him? Should the discord creators also be arrested for some shady channels? Should Elon Musk be arrested because twitter is the equivalent of fhe fifth circle of hell?

    • pop@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      7 months ago

      So they can make a very convincing case for a backdoor, in exchange for his release. And maybe some compensation for continued cooperation. Both come out winning and they get to claim nothing happened.

      Government cyber security dealings as usual. or not. who knows?

      • GenosseFlosse@feddit.orgEnglish
        01·
        7 months ago

        It’s one of the most popular social media apps in Russia that is not banned or blocked. I would bet they already have a backdoor for the Russian police and intelligence agency…

  • Bigoldmustard@lemmy.zipEnglish
    1·
    7 months ago

    They should let him go free if he can convince 5 telegram users it’s safe to rsvp to Thanksgiving over sms.

    Yes I’m making fun of you specifically, yes you should be offended, yes it’s worth it to reply with something really absurd because your brain is rotten from being lonely and being radically, unshakably online for most of your adult life….BUT ALSO into the facade of privacy, you steal manga and that shit is serious business, so you have a proton mail account you access through several abstractions so your mom can send pics of her corgi (he’s a little overweight btw).

    Oh also there’s the insanely high chance you’re extreme right, it’s like 80% of the non-schizophrenic people on there right?

  • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    7 months ago

    I don’t use Telegram because I don’t think it’s secure, but this is still bullshit.

  • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
    1·
    7 months ago

    TF1 and BFM both said the investigation was focused on a lack of moderators on Telegram

    I would vaguely imagine that they aren’t going to be very happy about the Threadiverse when they discover us. There’s no global moderator team to make moderate things.

  • Bigoldmustard@lemmy.zipEnglish
    01·
    7 months ago

    Telegram is for schizophrenics and nazis who aren’t ready to do it in public. If you think you need telegram, you actually probably need a friend.

  • Noxious@fedia.io
    24·
    7 months ago

    Hell yeah. I always hated Telegram, because of its countless false promises, misleading claims, bad encryption (which isn’t even enabled by default) and shady background.