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        Sadly, a true story. I asked 2 days ago. The answer was no, because they want to standardize the work environment. /:

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        They probably wouldn’t approve of this either, so what’s your point. If you’re using this you might as well just switch over. You can still run a Windows VM if you really need it, or dual boot if you absolutely have to.

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    v1.9.6 release change the license from MIT to PolyForm Strict License 1.0.0 which removes ability to re-publish and make changes to the project. In the day when fake open source projects sell out daily, it’s a good sign to avoid this project.

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    Nice, love to see more alternatives in this space. I’m currently using GlazeWM, which provides an i3-like experience on Windows. To the ones saying ‘just switch to Linux’, I used Linux full-time for many years but switched back to use Windows-only software, and a tiling WM and a package manager like Scoop goes a long way in making it more bearable.

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    This is absolutely nuts—even macOS doesn’t have a single program that does all of this.

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    why didn’t i find a youtube video displaying this project? it’s very interesting

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    it you’re messing with desktop environments and tiling window managers it sounds like you probably know enough to just use Linux instead with any of the hundreds of DEs and WMs

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    Haven’t heard about the “PolyForm Strict License” before. It looks to be a young project, yet feature rich.

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      It’s another fake open source license. While source code is public under the license, you can’t modify or republish so if the project decides to sell you are fucked.

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      Some are forced to use windows due to workplace requirements or software only running on windows. I run linux everywhere I can, but don’t always have the choice.

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        Yeah wtf

        • Try producing decent music on Linux: run into issues with DAWs and plugins.
        • try 3d anything more advanced on Linux: any fluid or gas simulation gets annoying real quick (real flow, Houdini, vray, octane)
        • try layouting / handout design on linux: yeah let’s hate on Adobe (and I do think they deserve it) but let’s also realize most of the industry runs on their tools and Linux makes it complicated

        Either you sacrifice money and freedom, or you sacrifice time and sanity. And I’m sorry, if I wanna do multiple of those things there’s no way around mac or windows. I wish it was different, but it isn’t and we gotta be realistic here.

        And yes I see y’all shouting that there’s a way for all of those things through workarounds but: for every one of those that works for me, there just as many that don’t work, than just as many that restrict me in different ways, just as many that require documentation that I have to pull out of my ass cause it’s not online, and just as many that make me look for the toenail of a harpy and sauron’s tears to work.

        Linux is not a direct alternative to windows, but it’s a lifestyle and a commitment and I’m not out here trying to make it my personality, I want software to work in less than a month of me deciding to install it.

        I can see the down votes rolling in on this but I’m tired of ppl selling their lifestyle instead of their OS.

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          You make a good case. In my more simple case, I need efficient and smart looking PowerPoints and no foss alternative can beat office 2016. And dozens of programs are windows only. I’ve tinkered with wine/play on Linux before and it just doesn’t work out of the box for the majority of programs.

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            Yes and people sell Linux to my like “either it works out of the box or it takes like 1google search” and that’s polar opposite from my longer experience on Linux.

            For work I had to set up an Ubuntu VM. Ubuntu is one of the most stable OS variants. But: it literally started throwing system application errors after 2h from a fresh install. We thought it was a one time thing or that we did something wrong so we tried again. The OS disk image was official and our VM Software was Virtual box. Both are supposed to be stable. And still, the OS started crying 2h in every time.

            Or another time where I had to find scanner drivers and I lost it. 5h of searching and tinkering, I had to rewrite scripts I found which didn’t work, had to add package manager repositories to my system, and try to look for 15y+ old forum posts which get very technical but also not really in depth. For a fucking scanner.

            And then that time aI wanted to install some software (I think maybe Skype) from the official Ubuntu store. But it just wouldn’t work. Everyone else apparently had no issues online. Everyone except for me. Tried to install it through downloading an archive and when that didn’t work I installed it through the terminal apt-get. It still wouldn’t work iirc.

            Or that time I had an Ubuntu VM for like half a year and applications started to hang and the system started getting random issues.

            Or that time Linux system just threw errors on every system upgrade (same happened to updates).

            This is a reoccurring thing and this toxic Linux positivity will only make more people mad when things are not as promised and they realize they are fucked.

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              My most recent example with EndeavorOS was trying out KDE which I thought looked really smart on the desktop. Then it started glitching. Arch tends to be bleeding edge so that makes sense. But it meant I had to make a new choice of distribution or DE.

              But Debian based Ubuntu? On Virtualbox? That seems a bit off. Maybe LTS would provide the stability you need.

              I guess because development is decentralised, that you end up with developers working on different packages and when they update one it has a ripple effect on other packages.

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              The or part in that statement is really what kills you, as you sort of imply. You spend five hours almost getting your scanner to work, some times, unreliably.

              That’s a worse outcome than the scanner refusing to work entirely in many cases.

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          try 3d anything

          blender runs natively on linux…

          do agree about music tho, it’s still a huge area that needs work

          edit: blender running on my legion go, under steam gamemode on bazzite (it’s available on steam):

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            Yes. I didn’t list blender because blender is kind of a unique case. An open source tool that basically slowly became industry standard? That’s a 1 in a million from what I’ve seen. But: as soon as you get professional, like I said, all the plugins and additional software will cause headaches, provided it works at all. The tools I listed there afaik do not have native support / are very unstable on Linux, although I haven’t confirmed it.

            But yeah I get your point, and it is quite the accomplishment to the blender devs that they made it this far, tho it is not the rule.

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      I’d love to switch to linux but it just doesn’t make sense for me.

      I’m an embedded systems developer and my proprietary toolchain is windows only. Additionally I use several Adobe product routinely (illustrator, photoshop, premier).

      Sucks.

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      Unfortunately, Linux isn’t quite there yet for casual users. I tried it every year, and there was always something that was annoying enough that I switched back to Windows with O&O ShutUp10. This is the first year that I’ve been happy enough with my install that I’ve started using it as my daily OS. But even this year, I had 2 really annoying issues that I had to spend time searching to fix.

      • After putting my computer to sleep, it would immediately wake back up. Eventually found out it was my Logitech wireless dongle that was causing the issue. I had to create a script that disabled USB ports during sleep and a systemd service to make sure it activated on every boot.

      • After waking from sleep, my screen was black with only my cursor visible. Running sudo systemctl restart display-manager sometimes worked, but that wasn’t a solution. After searching the web some more, I found an arch wiki explaining that it was an issue with my Nvidia GPU. So then I had to edit a modprobe file and finally I was happy with my install.

      I’m super happy that I can finally use Linux full-time, but the fact I had to mess around in terminal to fix the issues associated with my hardware means most casual users will just go straight back to Windows. I’ve seen a lot of Linux users say, “just don’t use Nvidia”, but buying a new GPU isn’t a solution for most people. My hardware isn’t even that weird: AMD 5800x3d, x570 chipset, Nvidia GPU. Linux is getting there, it’s closer than it’s ever been. But it’s not there yet.

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        My 75 year old father have been running linux for 20 years now. All in all, i know about 7 super casual users that are running linux only, without any real issues.

        Its definitely there for the casual users. Its just not really there for the Windows "power"users lol

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          It still depends on the hardware you have. If you have hardware that’s fully supported by the kernel version your distro is running, then it’s easy. But as soon as you add a piece of hardware that isn’t, there’s a good chance you need to spend a lot of time searching how to fix it. Buying a new mouse and all of a sudden not having sleep work is not a power user problem IMO.

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            @Untold1707 As opposed to the hardware requirements of windows, who force you to buy a new computer for every new windows version just because?

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      As a long time Windows user (~30 years), it comes down to “can I fix this if something goes wrong?”. This applies even more so when I’m talking about a computer that my wife might be using.

      99.9% of the time, the answer is “yes” when it comes to windows.

      Every time I’ve tried Linux, some experience breaking issue comes up within hours/days of starting it up, and I simply don’t have time to troubleshoot it.

      No matter how “stable” and “easy” someone claims Linux to be, I’ve never had a stable or easy experience in the last 20 years of trying to use Linux. I hate that fact, but that is a fact for me.

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        You can’t be serious. Being able to fix anything is the raison d’etre of open source.

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    It’s like throwing all your garbage under the dirty bed and covering it with pretty blanket.