• overload@sopuli.xyz
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    9 months ago

    Even if you’re not on social media, you’ll probably still have a shadow profile on Google/Metas servers. My 13 month old baby has a library of images searchable in Google photos and a profile photo in the app. It’s convenient, but incredibly creepy.

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        9 months ago

        It’s not opt-in as far as I’m aware. Just using Google photos makes it so. I suppose I’m deep enough in the google ecosystem (well, let’s say my wife is not going to move away from it) to be desensitised to how messed up it kind of is.

        I was more talking about how other people (i.e. your friends) will take photos of you and post it on social media or even just keep them in their google photos, and meta/google will build a shadow profile for you without your consent via facial recognition.

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          9 months ago

          No, but it’s opt-out, and it is your responsibility to ensure that stuff like this doesn’t happen - full disclaimer, that is my personal opinion. Pictures of third parties that did not give explicit consent for each and every picture shouldn’t be uploaded to cloud providers etc., let alone pictures of kids and other parties who are unable to give proper consent.

          My wife is incredibly careless with these things. She wants to know how to properly operate her smartphone and wants to care about e. g. privacy, and on paper, she does - but in practice, we do a 2 hour long session, I explain all the settings to her, where to find them, why they are important, what implications certain actions / options have for security, safety and even keeping her phone in working order, yet as soon as she walks out the door, she no longer cares one bit, will blindly click to accept all kinds of EULAs and default options, never investigate what the notifications about failed backups mean, never delete obsolete / already backed up data etc. up to a point where her phone no longer works and she then instructs Google Photos to upload multiple years of family pictures full of private moments, multiple children etc. to Google.

          The UI is crappy enough so you’ll spend a significant amount of time deleting the pictures remotely, absolutely infuriating. I was furious, in particular because I can’t say that removing the pictures will also reverse all the potential consequences of sharing all your pictures with Google.

          For reference, Google Photos does offer facial recognition, stores and estimates locations and even estimates activities based on media content.

          IMHO, being this negligent is not excusable in this day and age.

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            9 months ago

            I agree with you mostly, and thank you for giving such a passionate and important response.

            The problem is not the people though. Placing the “blame” or responsibility on the victims of this invasive behaviour is not the correct conclusion. These settings are deliberately obfuscated and people are uneducated on privacy and how it relates to technology. This is not their fault. Life is far too complicated to place yet another burden on the individual who already has so much to think about. The change needs to come from the people, yes, but it is not the people who need to change.

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    9 months ago

    Don’t store your personal stuff online. If you want to share stuff, send it directly and encrypt it.

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      9 months ago

      Also don’t go outside or let the Google car drive by your house or have email or throw documents in the trash

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        9 months ago

        Just don’t give companies that don’t respect your privacy access to your private life. Keep your online life completely separate from your real life. It’s not that difficult.

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    9 months ago

    When you post something online it’s almost as it’s become a public thing like newspaper thrown in the street. Take care of your online privacy! 🏴

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    9 months ago

    Where do you think AI gets all of its information?

    There’s nothing left to do but ban AI. If we can’t even agree to this, we are absolutely lost.

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        9 months ago

        You have a system that steals copyrighted materials, sucks up power, and spits out constantly wrong and occasionally dangerous “facts”, something created by people that can be removed from our world by having governments step in and forbid its use, and you think it’s like a natural constant of the world?

        Go fuck yourself. With a sharp stick. You are part of the problem right now along with the fucking fascist right-wing assholes. Go away.