I’m not generally in favor of obeying rules but enforcing them on 2+ tons of metal that people drive around is kinda where I start being in favor. With large dangerous objects should come some semblance of responsibility and social demand.
Or if we’re shitposting, every one of those cars contains at least 10k in scrap metal.
If they’re just enforcing speeding rules, then I’m all for it. But something tells me the speed limit enforcement is an ancillary side effect of them keeping a record of every car that passes the thing and when.
All the cool thieves know stealing catalytic converters for the platinum in them is the way to go. Way easier than hauling away multiple tons of scrap metal.
I’ve heard they keep a packet of meth right behind the lens as a desiccant. Just smash the lens and it falls right out.
Some do, some don’t. If you don’t find one right away you gotta keep trying and you’ll find one eventually.
Could well just be a Utah thing, but here they take your information/look at your ID when you first scrap metal some/most(?) places, so this would be a tough one to sell, if you pulled it off. Like a smaller, less profitable version of stealing a car. Now what?
copper melts, make bars
Traffic enforcement cameras are good for all road-users, including car drivers! We need more of them, tbh. And I say that as a petrol-head.
Enforcing traffic laws is one thing, but sooner or later they’re going to get hooked up to a central archive and database and be used to create a license-plate-tracking panopticon.
There was a study done about this in the late 90s. With existing analog cameras in New York City police were able to track cars license plates with 90% accuracy. Keep in mind this was pre-GPS, pre-digital processing, and pre-image recognition.
Just think how much further camera technology, computer software, and image recognition has come since then. Not to mention that your phone and car or GPS enabled and constantly tracking your location.
This has been here for over 30 years.
Already happening
Maybe don’t run red lights instead of trying to get meth users to take the cameras down?
I know it’s a joke but drivers are assholes by me and enforcement is low so these cameras are the best option.
The problem is that red light cameras incentivizes cities to encourage dangerous driving, because it is now a revenue source. Multiple cities have been caught illegally shortening yellow lights because shorter yellow lights cause more red light violations, yielding more money for the city and also increasing the rate of accidents at those intersections.
Changing a yellow light for that reason is messed up in so many ways.
Yep, that and the inconsistencies of timing. Some areas yellow are very long, some are short, and some seen to vary within the “allowable range.” In other words, encouraging people to slam on the brakes because God only knows when the lights will change.
I hate the cameras (I spend most of my work day driving city/suburban areas) and think that if they’re going to exist, they should have longer yellows to give more opportunity for drivers not to panic between getting ticketed or rear ended.
How about we compromise and just get rid of cars?
Is there any actual hard evidence of this? Or is it all anecdotal?
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130813201430.htm
There are also a bunch of court cases where tickets have been thrown out because the yellow time was too short, but maybe you think that counts as “anecdotal” because I can’t find a source to cite that’s tallied them all up.
People say this all the time, and I’ve never seen any kind of proof, either.
The only thing people point to is one area in a Houston suburb where they installed red light cameras, and people were so scared of running the lights, they would stop short in the yellow, resulting in more rear end accidents. Hardly a compelling reason to be against these cameras nationwide.
Drivers are assholes by me too and enforcement is low here too, but that doesn’t justify a camera watching every driver 24/7, plus pedestrians in some areas.
If you want more traffic enforcement, get the cops to do their fucking jobs.
Lol good luck with getting the cops to do anything. They love abusing traffic laws themselves.
But these cameras do not watch people. They take a picture when they detect a car is going too fast or blows a red light, not constant surveillance.
Plus cars are on public roads, peds are on public streets. I don’t really care about the privacy argument tbh in this case. Much more people are harmed from cars speeding and blowing red lights then any sort of abuse involving public cameras.
Are you sure about that?
Not only are those not cars running red lights, you can clearly see the intersection and sidewalks where pedestrians would be.
Those are traffic cams dude, not enforcement cameras.
Traffic cameras watch traffic and a lot of them are open to be viewed by anyone.
Enforcement cameras take shots on motion and object detection. Just like toll cameras which snap a pic of your license plate as you drive under them, they aren’t meant to view traffic live. The cameras have very different tech as they are for a specific purpose.
I’m sure this meme applies just as well to traffic cams if you want to be pedantic about it.
It’s not pedantic if I’m addressing your assertions based on the article you linked in reply to the guy saying your not being watch via what are basically just really high tech photo cameras.
Meme aside.
It’s beyond hilarious that flying squid would whine about someone else being pedantic, because most times when we’ve butted heads, pedanticism has been their go-to once their argument starts to falter.
But it’s especially funny here when you aren’t even being pedantic, but pointing out that the article they provided is talking about something almost completely separate.
