Dear Cities fans, We see and understand the disappointment many of you have expressed after the release of Cities: Skylines II and the recent release of Beach Properties. We asked for your patience and support, and you’ve shown those. In...

TL;DR:

  • They apologized (again)

  • They will refund everyone who bought the beach DLC and make it a free addition to the game, admitting it was tasteless that they made paid DLC when the game is in a broken state

  • They will focus on base changes and better modding tools before starting to make more DLC (previously announced DLC has been delayed to 2025)

  • Console release delayed

Honestly, this is a good update. It’s everything we wanted to hear. Looking forward to buying the game when it gets fixed.

  • arudesalad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    1·
    11 months ago

    This was too late. Paradox’s in house development studio did the same thing with Victoria 3. Do something way too greedy (lock historical characters behind a preorder for a dlc that was already bad). Waited to see the backlash, and when it was too much, they make the bonuses free.

    At least they’re doing something, but the dlc should have been pushed back at launch.

    • Moneo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      I’ve hated Paradox ever since I bought CK2 and then realized how many minor features were locked behind $5 DLCs. I later pirated the game to play all the DLC and there is absolutely no fucking way that shit was worth what they are charging. Decided then never to buy a Paradox game again.

      Compare that to the Factorio devs Wube. They released their game as a beta and then just kept updating it and adding features until it was done. Then they spent years fixing basically every bug in the game. As far as I know they never decreased the price or put the game on sale, and at one point they increased the price of their game because of inflation. Which honestly is fine, they made a great game and they are continuing to support the game, why decrease the price?

      I know I’m coming off as a Wube shill but in my eyes they are ideal devs. Paradox in theory make really interesting games but in practice they poison them with shitty monetization strategies. If they just made games and added free updates for a while afterwards if they wanted to I probably would have spent a shit load on their games.

      I’m ranting but as a side note, Paradox definitely abuses fomo. They make games that basically require you to watch videos of how to play and those videos inevitably mention DLCs which you then start wondering what you’re missing out on. That’s definitely what made me want to buy their DLC.

      Fuck paradox

  • cobysev@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    11 months ago

    Remember when games used to be a finished product on a cartridge/CD? You just bought it at the store for a base price of a video game and that was it. Any bugs found in the game became widely accepted, and maybe even exploited by competitive gamers. But there was no patching, no updates, no DLC. You paid for a game up front and that was it.

    I miss those days.

    • ZeroPoke@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      Actually there were update still cause the games were only little less broken. It’s updates were so much harder for everyone. Hosting them, finding them, knowing there were updates, having to apply updates in specific orders.

      Steam has been a good send for that.

      Maybe I’m just old

    • johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.worldEnglish
      01·
      11 months ago

      Games were also significantly less complex then. It takes teams of 100s of people to make a AAA game now. But don’t kid yourself, there were definitely game-breaking bugs back then. And in the pc world, patches arrived much, much earlier than in the console world.

      • gens@programming.devEnglish
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        11 months ago

        FF7 and supreme commander were complex. And devs then didn’t have the tools we have today, not to mention game engines (there were, but not like today). And ps3 was a pain to program for. And, and…

  • NekuSoul@lemmy.nekusoul.deEnglish
    11·
    11 months ago

    They’ve basically perfected keeping the community mostly happy by toeing the line between putting out solid base games and putting out greedy DLC.

    What we’re now seeing is what happens when you don’t immediately change course after you skimp on making a good base game.