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85 % probably have outdated firmware.
That number probably higher. However that changes nothing as we can’t control proprietary firmware blobs.
Honestly there is no way of knowing anything about the security of those blobs. Firmware vendors can do whatever they want.
Why? I don’t understand. Doesn’t it have any update mechanism for that?
They mean that the device manufacturer and or hardware vendors are no longer putting out updates for the proprietary blobs.
I dont know if it even has to be proprietary. Vendors need to sign the firmware too.
Yeah, really bad.
That’s why we work to mainline devices. It is very hard and there are only a handful of devices that work with mainline Linux but it simplifies a lot of things.
It’s a really nicely built OS, well documented, and the install process is streamlined as much as possible (with detailed instructions).
I really hope we can get enough attention and support to this project (as well as others like it) for it to get mainstream.
for it to get mainstream
It will never get more mainstream than this.
Lineage has been the go-to ROM that beat every other ROM in active users by one or more orders of magnitude since the beginning of Android. Everyone that cares a little bit about custom ROMs knows what Lineage is, and if they don’t they will recognize its previous name CyanogenMod.
Average users are never going to care about custom ROMs because it’s not worth the effort for them, so why would you care about making LOS more mainstream?
because adopting open source software is a societal good? the idea that it won’t grow is kind of bleak. the industry standard for android device OS is dogshit for user privacy and a private monopoly and that’s something we should want fixed. unless you like living under constant corporate surveillance.
I never said I didn’t want it to get popular, I just think there’s no point in trying to spread the word about its existence… because the problem is not in people knowing about its existence. The problem is that most average phone users will not find it worth the effort to switch to LOS, with the risks that come with it (banking apps not working half the time, upgrades sometimes needing a data wipe).
More people using a thing (in this case I mean FOSS more than LOS specifically) influences the market, companies start to notice and may even be forced to adapt. Large private monopolistic ecosystem are really bad for everything.
It would make things easier for smaller brands to enter market as well - like what Raspberry/Banana Pi but for phones.
Also the official list of supported devices (wiki.lineageos.org/devices) has a super easy install process. Mainstream would mean more of these (eg the latest flagship Samsung supported is S10/Note10). And expanding this list would make a huge difference in addition - not everyone that knows about custom ROMs is tech savvy (or just wants a stable OS with OTA).
And this is also only the official list, there are unofficial ports for much newer Samsung devices like the Samsung S20 FE
Yes, but the list of bugs grows unfortunately.
That’s why I want LOS to be more popular, at some point manufacturers would at least release drivers.
I wish I could use it but it’s only supported on few phones that tend to be more expensive and older.
I always wanted to try it, but my bank wont let me login if I’m not on on the devices OG OS, I used to run Custom ROM until that started to happen.
Try the bank’s web site. Companies all push apps to harvest all your data. Very few compute services actually need them.
There are workarounds:
Install magisk, add the app to the zygisk denylist before first run.
Install
universal safetynet fix and magisk hide props config (modules for magisk).For some apps, you may have to install them in island so that they can’t detect the magisk app.
You need play integrity fix instead of safetynet and just activating zygisk should be fine on latest magisk.
Thanks. I have a pretty old install so my module list is a relic of the time but it makes sense why it still works for me. I’ll edit.
Sounds like you should switch to a credit union.
And when it comes to apps, credit unions aren’t always better… In fact I’ve noticed they almost never are.
Why do you need an app for banking…?
Still running on my GalaxyS4. Lite, stable and reliable.
Had some trouble running it on my Azus Zenphone, but now on my Fairphone it works flawlessly.
The camera was horrible back then.
I would love to use lineage or /e/ again on my phone, but Google’s Foto app is Soo good compared to all of the foss apps out there. Especially if you like modes like super-macro I did not find anything near that. This is a shame bc/ I’ve used an degoogled device for over an decade now.
Does anyone have an idea how I could come back on the good side without loosing the functionality of that app?
You cam use the pixelify module. It adds many pixel-exclusive features, including the google photos app!
use a “gcam port”
Maybe I’m not aware what I’m missing out on. On GrapheneOS on a Pixel phone, you can install the camera app made by Google. com.google.android.GoogleCamera. Has some fancy features, but maybe not the ones you are referring to?
At least I did not find anything in the Playstore.
Graphene has the secure camera there but this is (I think) a fork of opencamera with sane configuration
This is the installed camera app as seen in the play store for me.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera
It shows up with the name “Pixel Camera”
Does LineageOS work with Google Family Link if I add gapps?
I can’t confirm if all features are working, but possibly. My case is that I have LineageOS on my phone and my son has an Amazon tablet that I’ve used Fire Toolbox on to install Google Playstore and services. I’m able to approve/deny apps for him to install (I get the notification on Family Link on my phone), but some things aren’t working because I’m having trouble with Play services on the tablet.
Wish not working? I’ve got the same.
Wonder if there’s a privacy friendly version of this
I am using this, best decision I’ve ever taken. Using my device feels new again. There is still the issue with play integrity. Apart from that everything’s good so far.
How can I do this? I have an old Realmi stuck on Android 9
I wish we could use this on more recent devices!
I’d have it installed on my phone if it was supported. 😬
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Indeed, it’s interesting, it was trending on news website again, I don’t know why.
Yeah, but I think I have like half of those devices in a desk drawer.
Why? I have had the same phone for the last 5 years.
Because people (like myself) do that with their old phone to have a backup that’s not horrifically outdated but that isn’t actually needed day to day
#GrapheneOS
Yes because every smartphone is a Pixel, apparently
Every smart person will have one with GrapheneOS installed
Ok, can you be smart somewhere else?
These comments where a bit selfish but GrapheneOS really is worlds ahead of LineageOS.
That might very well be, but their target audience is tiny, since they refuse to support anything but Pixel phones
Which sucks, because their features would also make other devices more secure. But at the same time they would
- need substantially more resources (I think supporting Google phones is really easy, as they get full security patches for everything)
- need to lower their security level a ton
No device needs even their basic requirements which are not even that high.
And even then the said points would be a problem
@Pantherina they could simply support phones with stock Android and there will probably be less work to do than supporting the broad range of devices that Lineage has.
They’re different projects with different goals. Graphene is more private & secure if that’s the thing that matters to you. Lineage supports far more devices
So… Grapehene is better but lineage is sopported on more devices?
Graphene prioritizes security above everything else. This means that it does thinks like ship proprietary software if they think it will boost security. Lineage os is designed to be a Linux distribution for phones and is focused on providing a system that is all free software (excluding firmware). It doesn’t kill off support for devices and is designed to be tweaked and doesn’t support bootloader relocking out of the box.
Again… One is just better than the other…
If you are saying Lineage os is better I agree
Not quite
Thanks, since you’re suggesting this, would you like to exchange your pixel for my cheap xiaomi?
I would suggest you get a pixel, why get a cheap xiaomi in the first place?
Coz I have no money? Isn’t it obvious?
Can I get grapheneos in my phone??? Or are you going to suggest another unrelated crap?
