• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    Canada just released its timetable to phase routine maintenance dental care into a consolidated health plan.

    It’s starting small, but if our Republican wanna-bes don’t kill it we could have universal coverage and equal access to dental care regardless of economic station.

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    If you can’t find a cheap or available option try contacting a local college of dentistry. Honestly, they’re always advertising free or low cost dental care here.

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      Yes and please make sure you get it checked out! It may seem like a non-issue (just minor pain, etc) but if it ever gets worse the damage is likely going to become permanent and your quality of life with no teeth/extreme toothache is a lot lower than you might think.

      Source: my dad and uncle neglected their teeth and its becoming a bad issue now

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        Not even that, your teeth are linked in with your vascular and nervous systems. It may seem like a none issue now but it could lead to neurological issues or sepsis.

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          I think you may be right; I watched in real time as someone I know let their teeth rot out, and there’s been a distinct change in them mentally. I only wish I was joking.

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        Thanks, you’re totally right as my grandpa neglected his and had false teeth. One of the reasons I’m such an ardent brusher, I’m hoping this case is something simple.

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        Yeah do what this person’s saying, I watched someone I know disregard their own teeth and saw their teeth actually rot out of their head. It is no fucking good.

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    This. I’ve only been recently able to afford much needed dental care, and now it’s too late for one of my teeth, a tooth above it broke the roots because my mouth is too crowded. Had I been able to afford it earlier, I would have a much more normal mouth.

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      I have larger than average teeth too, so I had braces all of middle school.

      Hoping the cause of this is something simple like a sinus infection, though the area has a baby tooth that’s managed to hang on and it has fillings from when I was a kid.

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        My problem is the opposite, normal teeth, small mouth! Haven’t ever been able to have braces until now, so I’m knocking it all out now. Hope everything goes well for you!

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    I chipped my back teeth on something, but it ain’t hurting so i am making an effort to not worry about it. Not like i even want to live to see my body breaking down in old age anyway.

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    Rethorical question: Where in the world your insurance doesn’t cover this?

    And: Buying a house … I don’t know what to say about this. Who would do such a thing?

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      Before this week, Canada.

      In Canada eyes and teeth are not considered “health” and thus is also not covered by universal healthcare.

      It was up to the provinces and employers to implement whatever coverage they wanted for those. In my place, dental care is free if you are under 18, or if you live from government assistance. The only way to get healthcare for your teeth as an adult, is to have a dental plan at work. So a young adult working minimum wage in a convenience store doesn’t have dental insurance.

      From personal experience, I didn’t have dental insurance between 18 and 30 because I had low wage jobs.

      However this is going to change a bit soon, because the social-democrats just pushed a vote to expand dental insurance to everyone that needs it. It’s not universal yet but now people with low wage jobs will be covered.

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      Aus here, for complex dental I can claim up to $800 annually on my extras cover, need braces for around $8000.

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      I get where you’re coming from, but you’re not making the point you think you’re making - even on the NHS you’d probably have to go private for that, unless you’re on benefits in which case the NHS dentist has to see you, but will make you wait months and months for an appointment with their one burnt out NHS dentist who will do their best within their limits because they’re only allowed to do the bare minimum on NHS patients.

      Yes, social healthcare is amazing and worth fighting for, but social healthcare under capitalism will still always favour profit over people, and the results are clear to see, which is why the only viable long term solution is to abolish capitalism, not fight for the stale crumbs it’s willing to give.

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      Dental is tricky in many countries. It’s delicate, easy to go wrong and very often painful. In Poland I used to do simple things like fillings using public insurance and I’ve heard many times that I’m crazy and for sure they will fuck it up. I think it’s simply because it’s it expensive and will go wrong people will think it was inevitable. But if it’s free and goes wrong people will say it’s because it was free. So in my experience even if public insurance covers dental people tend to avoid it.

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      FWIW, our universal health coverage here will cover medical dental care, but not cosmetic. They’ll patch up or remove your bad tooth, but I think it’d be harder to get an implant or a crown without paying for it. Weirdly, dentists are still one of the two or three basic services where people here are still willing to pay for uncovered medical attention, the others being eyecare and pediatrics.

      When I needed surgery my private dentist still sent me over to the public system, though. Took a look at my X-rays, told me she wasn’t gonna touch any of that without an MRI and an OR on standby and told me to go to my public doctor with a note and tell them to get me booked with a maxillofacial surgeon, which I did. It wasn’t that big of a deal in the end, but the reaction was… revealing.

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      In Denmark, the social democratic Nordic welfare paradise, universal healthcare does not cover dental care for adults. If you’re really poor and have an emergency you might have some luck begging the local municipality to pay for having the offending tooth pulled out but that’s about it.

      The result is a wide class disparity in dental health and even people who are not poor think twice before going to the dentist, resulting in issues growing worse than they had to be.

      Some private insurance exists but they are free to reject you as a customer if your dental health is already bad.

      Nobody likes the current system or want to be seen defending it. The only argument that’s given for maintaining the status quo is that doing the right thing would be too expensive.

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      In America, dental and health insurance are separate. And many jobs that provide health insurance can often not provide dental insurance. There is a reason teeth are referred to as the “luxury bones”.

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    my parents didn’t have teeth by the time they were in their 30s either. Americans have a rather out-of-proportion concern about their teeth. I know its a trope that Englishman have bad teeth, but look, dental isn’t covered by British universal health care because most times its primarily cosmetic , even things American dentists say are essential, and not a true health concern.

    • Apathy Tree@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      lol at the thought of “this part of your body that you use multiple times every day for vital survival functions and various other functions like communication is mostly cosmetic, you’ll do just fine without!”

      Teeth bleaching is cosmetic, crowns and fillings and whatever are restoration of normal functioning.

      If we were meant to be ok without properly functioning teeth, we wouldn’t have teeth in the first place. That’s a stupid argument biologically speaking. (No offense intended to you personally, ofc)

      I understand that Americans have a disproportionate focus on the -specifically cosmetic- aspects of oral hygiene, whiteness and straightness, primarily, but to say that most oral care is unnecessary and purely cosmetic is just absolute hogwash.

      Mind you this is from someone who intends to get all her teeth ripped out and replaced with implants because no matter what I do, I average a cavity every 2-4 years. It’s cheaper in the long run to get implanted dentures than to fight my genes. So I understand entirely the being toothless by 30 (tho I’m 36 and still have all of them, I think I have more fillings than teeth at this point, and if most of those weren’t done free in the military I’d just have no teeth) but I disagree vehemently with the idea that that’s totally fine and won’t cause problems.