I heard they’re adding a third control panel.
all it cost was GPO and Regrdit
Windows 12 is likely to debut in the second half of 2024 with
AI-focuseduser surveillance “features”You don’t even need to change that word, “AI focusing on you” and the context of Microsoft explain it all.
Thought that was the theme for Windows 11
Introducing our most bloated operating system yet.
Coming 2024.One of our PCs in the house has Windows 11, and it’s already a nightmare - even after stripping out as much adware/bloatware as possible.
Now we’re going to be getting something far worse, with extra surveillance features and AI interpretation of them. Wonderful!
If you still have bloatware/adware, you didn’t strip out as much a possible. If you lack the understanding to do so, feel free to ask a professional computer technician for help.
~Sincerely a Windows user without bloatware.
“Hire a professional to make your computer stop being hostile” is a more user-unfriendly solution than telling them to switch to Linux. It also only works until a Windows Update re-enables whatever they disabled for you, without notifying you or asking permission.
Windows 11 is just needlessly slower than Windows 10 for no reason. I don’t like the idea of switching to an even slower OS. Time for me to switch to Linux as their primary OS.
So far for me, games are running faster on Linux than win11. I’ve gone over a month without booting widows now.
Can I ask which distro you run? My next build will be Linux based.
I’ve never done serious Linux gaming but Lubuntu is lightweight and fairly responsive even on my old 2009 laptop.
I’ve been running MX Linux four a few years mostly for playing games and I’ve had great success with only one game that caused issues, and one that wouldn’t play due to anti-cheat software.
Just enable the high end hardware repos on install if it’s a newer system and use proton for minimal hassle.
That looks good. I had already considered Debian for the stability and MX being based off it is a good thing.
I’ll look in to it a bit more. Thanks!
Please just do yourself a favor and run Linux mint cinammon. It is the easiest distros to use bar none and super reliable, great for anything gaming included. Tons of support and hell and software options and driver support.
I have a novel idea. How about my operating system just being a platform to allow my games and applications to run? I’m sick of Microsoft adding “new features” that slow everything down.
I swear, every time a company adds “AI” to their product, it makes it dumber.
Ai isn’t going to be running on your computer
When you first boot it’s going to ask “what wallpaper do you want” then go online and download the image
Then you can do the same in the wallpaper app
Not really any different than the bing in search feature you’ve had since 10
“Just let us read everything on your computer, bro. That’s all we need to make it awesome, bro. Trust me.”
Just when I was ready to upgrade to 11; I don’t think I’ve ever been this behind in Windows upgrade cycles outside of the awful ones (ME, Vista and 8).
For real. Me too. I have Win 11 on my work laptop and I hate it. They really had the ergonomics down with Windows 10. I could almost use it blindfolded. Win 11 is a mess. Plus they added a lot of features that has me concerned about my privacy.
And now in Win 12, all my info and data are doing to be sent to some AI somewhere? Fuck that.
The day that Win 10 becomes unsupported or that I’m forced to upgrade to a newer version of Windows is the day I go 100% Linux.
I’ve got Win 11 on my laptop on with the last update I think it’s ok to use now. What’s wrong with it?
Not a privacy freak, but still concerned about the overheads with sending unncessary data too. And I really just want an OS, not a nanny on the desktop. Copilot in Edge is useful but I hate the nagging about using it.
Ever notice how it’s more search focused? Especially the start menu? There’s a lot of data that is being sent without you noticing.
I don’t know how technical you are but here’s an article with some links to videos of people analyzing what’s being sent.
I don’t really care about that as long as it doesn’t interfere with my daily use; that’s what I really dislike whenever MS adds something to Edge, it adds cruft to the UI, and also why I get the complaints about ads in the Start Menu (I’m not in the USA, never had ads in the Start Menu ever). That shit would be so infuirating.
I care very much. I’m sick and tired of being bombarded with ads and it’s especially concerning when ads about things I only thought about appear coincidentally. In addition, all my information and photos and videos are now used to train AI and I have no idea how my information is used or stored.
Then you have cases like in the US where women are being arrested because the police are using chat records and other stored data on company servers to find out who is seeking abortion services. Or in other places where just criticizing the government ends up with you being arrested.
And this is becoming increasingly common, even in relatively free countries.
Naw man, I’ll be switching to Linux.
I have a few counters I manage, plus my personal laptop. I’ve set all of them to only allow updates up to version 22H2, windows 10 lts. Hopefully that means they will never try to upgrade to windows 11.
Edit: computers. I don’t manage any counters that run an OS, as far as I’m aware.
You’ve inadvertently discovered the Windows Rule: every other version sucks.
Not true, I’ve been happy with 8.1 and 11.
I just want XP back
They really did peak with NT 3.5
win2000
win2k really was the best windows. lots of people seem to like xp, but xp was just a bloated win2k
Novell 4 lyfe
OS/2 baby!
Tandy Deskmate! Guess you never forget your first.
If it’s the first one we touched, then it would be OS/8 on the PDP/8 in my dad’s lab.
First one I did ‘real’ computing on was a PET 2001 running Commodore BASIC.
My laptop came with Windows 11 on it. I installed Fedora pretty shortly after getting it. It doesn’t have working speakers in Linux, and it can’t shutdown - it just restarts on its own - because Lenovo’s Linux support is non-existent outside of a handful of Thinkpad devices.
I accepted the loss. I’d rather use my Bluetooth earbuds when I need them and jump through hoops managing my battery than deal with how hostile Microsoft has gotten towards their customers or their relentless surveillance policies.
I belive you but how strange. Think pads are like the go to budget Linux laptop option. They’ve worked flawlessly for me for various distros over various models and years.
Ah I should have been more clear. I have a non-Thinkpad Lenovo. It’s an Ideapad, Slim 7 Carbon. I bought it for its gorgeous screen and didn’t really intend it to be a Linux exclusive device but here I am.
Ah I see thatn is frustrating
I had a restart on shutdown quirk with a dell machine, the fix was adding a kernel quirk number in grub line. You might want to try it. Solved it competely for me. add xhci_hcd.quirks=262144 to grub line or try xhci_hcd.quirks=8192 or you may need both so you add the numbers together for 270336.
Thanks for the suggestion! I tried all three but to no avail. It’s not the worst behavior, I just resort to a less graceful shutdown holding the power button down at the grub menu. Suspend works fine now that I’ve disabled bluetooth wakeup, at least, so I just plug in for a while each day to keep things going.
Bummer. As for sound there, if it is a separate amplifier that runs the audio there was a package that let you manually reassign hardware speaker pins to the corresponding outputs, but it is trial and error unless you find someone’s notes on which pins worked for them. it is HDAjackRetasker might separate package or be part of alsa-tools-gui. when you run hdajackretask you get a dialog box, try the various overrides, or if that doesn’t work then turn on show unconnected pins and advanced override, then it is trying various pin overrides to components and seeing what works. There ia some limited documentation in the gui, and probably more online.
Yep, I messed with hdajackretasker for several hours a few months ago. There was no combination of pins configurations that fixed it that I could find.
It is the amplifier causing the sound problems, but from my research on this and similar issues with other Lenovo laptops like the Legion, it seems to be the way that Lenovo’s bios identifies the hardware and its pins to the OS. It’s likely possible to write a patch to fix it, but that’s over my head and I got the sense from others who have tried that there isn’t enough information to write the patch without more details from Lenovo, who have been entirely unresponsive to support requests.
They’re fantastic speakers in Windows, so it’s a shame, but I can work this way. In another year or two I’ll upgrade to a laptop with hardware that I know plays nice with Linux.
Yeah, unfortunate. I have same issue with an HP zbook and the Bang& Olufson sound. Regular LR is fine but the boost is not. When it is upgrade time I’ll be choosey.
You think AI fad will survive that long?
I think its weird no one mentioned how new 11 is , for them to be releasing 12 already. Like, their os life cycle is usually way longer.
