I know the CEO dug himself a pretty deep hole recently.

I had been meaning to switch all the services I currently use over to proton - but his remarks gave me pause.

Is it still worth considering?

  • @piratOP
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    Yeah - mostly was the hope of this post to see what others you put up.

    I had looked at tuta but I’m looking to be able to move my digital workspace (email, calendar, storage, docs, etc) over.

    • haverholm
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      311 hours ago

      FWIW, tuta offers email, calendar and contacts. That’s a good part of it sorted out.

      For storage, if you’re not up for self hosting Seafile or Nextcloud, look at https://filen.io/

      Or, check out https://disroot.org/en which has email, storage, calendar and contacts.

      AFAIK none of the above have office suites like you might expect coming from Google or Microsoft, but in my experience installing LibreOffice on your local machine solves that. Not everything needs to run in a browser.

      • Océane
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        15 hours ago

        Sorry, missed the Office part but both Cozy Cloud and Nextcloud support OnlyOffice. It’s 12€/month at Cozy Cloud though, and the service is France-centric… For now.

      • @piratOP
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        210 hours ago

        It seems murena has all in looking for with the exception of supporting custom domain names (unless you self host). The workspace aspect is important to me as I do a lot of collaborative work that is much easier with shared access to a spreadsheet.

        • haverholm
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          310 hours ago

          murena

          Sure, if at this point you’re still comfortable trusting the same entity with all your cloud services as well as your phone OS (which seems to just be a hardened LineageOS) — go right ahead.

          • cabbage
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            49 hours ago

            For me personally this is the selling point, as I can fund their (open source) work rather than sending money to some company that does not contribute to open source. And since everything they offer is based on FOSS, migrating to another provider is easier than for closed source competition.

            That said, I get your point. It is a corporation, and it is putting several eggs on one basket.

            • haverholm
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              29 hours ago

              I’m wary of Signal for the same reason that — although both products are at least nominally open source — for all intents and purposes, their strategy is corporate. And this centralisation makes Murena as well as Signal single points of potential failure.

              You do you, just consider that the minute somebody from the Murena/e Foundation board has a public meltdown you may have to find a new home for all the cloud things 🤷

          • @piratOP
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            29 hours ago

            Totally fair point there.

            I do want to move to a more secure OS for my mobile device, and I’m just in the babysteps of understanding the wide world of the Linux ecosystem.

            • haverholm
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              If that’s where you’re at, go for it. Every decision in this game is a tradeoff between convenience and privacy. We all need to start somewhere!

              I’m old enough that I used to casually flash Android KitKat ROMs, and self hosted Nextcloud for a decade or so. I’ve seen platforms rise and fall 🤣 After a while it’s easy to become jaded.

              • @piratOP
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                Yeah, long term I do want to self host and I’ve now been doing reading on next cloud.

                I used to flash to cyanogenos on a galaxy2 back in the day and I’m looking at different ROMs to try out now (suggestions welcome).

                That being said, I’m new to Linux and haven’t done much home server stuff, but am motivated to learn more.